Return-Path: Received: (qmail 631 invoked from network); 16 Dec 1999 16:25:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by 212.159.2.35 with SMTP; 16 Dec 1999 16:25:14 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11ye7r-00050p-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 16:51:35 +0000 Received: from hermes.iol.cz ([194.228.2.36]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11ye7p-00050h-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 16:51:33 +0000 Received: from dell1.GMC.NET ([194.228.133.41]) by hermes.iol.cz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 631-64078U55000L55000S0V35) with ESMTP id cz for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 17:18:34 +0100 Received: from p (P.MALY [192.168.1.35]) by dell1.GMC.NET with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id YR5ZQCDN; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 17:21:18 +0100 Message-ID: <003c01bf47e1$95899a20$2301a8c0@maly.gmc.net> From: "Petr Maly" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <383CEEAC.71F1E02F@club-internet.fr> <012501bf43e5$dcf0bec0$0600a8c0@main> <3854B5A4.E96DBDFC@club-internet.fr> <003801bf45a2$bd0fa1c0$0600a8c0@main> <3858FDF5.754B0F11@club-internet.fr> Subject: LF: getting permission OK Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 17:21:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hello Lowfers Nice story, isn't it. I can tell my own. In spring this year I called to CTU (PTT) to get permission for transmitting on 136 kHz. The YL on the other side told me that she is very, very busy and that I would have best to call again in autumn. But I did not give up and I called her again and again. At last, to get rid of me, she said something like: "OK then, transmit there and don't bother me any longer". That's all my permission. I have nothing written in my hand till now. I even don't know till now what one must comply with to get permission in OK. No one knows. Maybe, my transmission is illegal and all my "firsts" will be cancelled. Who knows... 73, Petr, OK1FIG ----- Original Message ----- From: M & S To: Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 3:58 PM Subject: LF: French update > Hello all, > > I've just had a long conversation with the guy who's responsible for the > Amateur Service here in France, at the ministry of telecommunications. > > The situation is more complicated than I previously announced. In fact, > the ART (French equivelant of OFTEL) has made several demands towards > the Agence Nationale des Frequences (French equivalent of the RA) > regarding the use of the 136 kHz band in France by amateurs. > > I phoned the ANF, and nobody there seemed to know what I was talking about! > > Well, I'm one of those "bad" journalists who never give up: I gave a > call to the ministry. The minister didn't want to speak to me so they > connected me to the press service. Again, nobody was able to understand > a word about what I was talking about (are we lowfers so bizarre?). > > Finally, after five phone calls, around eight or nine different > services, fifteen or so different people and twenty-five times > explaining the same thing, I managed to get a short piece of information > from an official source. > > Read this: "the 136 kHz band will definately be allocated to the amateur > service in France. I'm surprised that so many european countries are > already active. However, our request has been published. All we need now > is a signature from the Prime Minister. He does have the papers on his > desk since a couple of months. The question is, how many papers have > been loaded on top of the 136 kHz file..." > > So, 136 in France can be authorised tomorrow, like it can be authorised > in December 2000. However, we're quite sure right now that it will be > authorised whatsoever. > > Wait and see. > > 73, Mark, F6JSZ > Editor, French CQ >