Return-Path: <owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dc06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id A198D3800012C; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:01:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RzWF1-00079g-1z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:37:31 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RzWEz-00079X-NS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:37:29 +0000 Received: from out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.238]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>) id 1RzWEx-0004KJ-A3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:37:29 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As8GAOZtQk9cF/ed/2dsb2JhbABEgk2rRoNAgQiBbgUBAQUIAQEDCxUpAg8NEAEBAwUCAQMRBAEBChcBBgcUAQQaBg0JCAYTCgECAgEBCIdqqXaQGohqX4I2CQQCCgEEBAtFAQGDXziDPgSCXYU+hTqaT4FU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,451,1325462400"; d="scan'208,217";a="385836419" Received: from host-92-23-247-157.as13285.net (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.23.247.157]) by out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 2012 16:37:16 +0000 Message-ID: <003901ccefed$e7963410$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> References: <002a01ccee25$c2416cd0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4F3F800B.2000201@xs4all.nl> <003e01ccee2d$49b17f50$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <E37CC80D85414760A1480FEB7A8F1113@AGB> <007f01ccee6c$3eca0f50$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <6ADDBBA8CD0B4DC38D7950C75294B505@AGB> <004601cceee8$7566da80$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <2AB0A82B2A6F4A0ABCD855D8AB420777@lindavideo> <000f01cceef9$bbcbe130$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <20939DDAB9A34C99BF9854521FFDF361@lindavideo> <000d01ccefb7$0195a620$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <5F2709601E5A4F4EA48E633CA19F728D@lindavideo> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:34:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: opera 500 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0036_01CCEFED.7559D190" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:478802784:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40864f427c660ae2 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01CCEFED.7559D190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ken Where did u get the 0 - 5 Mhz dds osc from ?=20 de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 11:11 AM Subject: RE: LF: opera 500 Hi Mal. Ok you are bang on the line limit. I hope to be back on LF soon, = constructing a HV power supply, the original project was designed for = the 500kHz 10w ERP limits, now starting to re-design for the new LF = band. Lucky they don't use 470/475kHz Ifs any more. Just purchased 0 - = 5MHz DDS osc so generating the change in frequency is no problem, but = need to do new input filters for the RX pre-amp, driver board for the = 23W TX , transformers and PA for the valve TX not for the appliance = operators you can tell an appliance operator he has no solder burns. On = a different note have not heard anything regarding Finbar recently is he = ok? Regards. Ken M0KHW =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 20 February 2012 10:04 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: opera 500 =20 Hi Ken Yes the filters are fitted. I know how the system works as you = describe it. Since the common denominator is the copper line I thought = the RF would effect both. My line is probably 3 miles to the telephone = exchange via various junction boxes etc and 30 plus years old. Not ideal = and never intended to carry high speed data. The engineer did say my = line was noisy. The whole country needs to be re-cabled with fibre optic cable now = that wideband data is here to stay and make life easy for the Appliance = Operator =20 mal/g3kev =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 7:26 PM Subject: RE: LF: opera 500 =20 Hi Mal. The telephone portion is speech in the standard 300Hz - 3400Hz = speech band directly on the copper pairs, the DSL sits on top of this = using the DSLAM in the exchange, that is why you have a 'Micro Filter' = at each telephone outlet in the house, do you have a 'Micro Filter at = each telephone outlet? Regards. Ken M0KHW =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 19 February 2012 11:29 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: opera 500 =20 Tnx Ken info No overhead lines around my QTH, all underground and there is no = problem with the telephone regardless of power on any band. Normally it is not a problem with CW, SSB, or QRSS it is just a = problem with Opera because of the data base feedback facility 73 de mal/g3kev =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 11:05 AM Subject: RE: LF: opera 500 =20 Hi Mal. I had the same problem until I went Fibre To The Cabinet (FTTC), = if you are on a long local line especially if it is overhead, the most = likely there will not be any DSL carriers above 500kHz, and what are = present will have a very poor S/N ratio. I fitted common mode chokes on = every piece of cable I could find and they made no difference, only a = few watts at 500kHz and the lower HF bands would cause the DSL router to = drop out and re-train up. I had my ex (pre-retirement) colleagues from = BT Adastral Park, conduct measurements on my local line, (2.8km in = length with 30m of drop wire) as part of a national survey, the line = without the common mode chokes had no DSL carriers above 500kHz with an = S/N less than 10dB, with a few watts of TX power with and without CMCs = the remaining carriers were degraded sufficiently to cause the router to = retrain. Another cause could be if you have drop wire there could be = corrosion on any external screw terminals causing 'Rectified Joints' = like the rusty bolt effect on radio masts, water getting into older = types of drop wire can cause corrosion on the plated steel conductors. Hope this helps. Ken ex-BT Adastral Parkl M0KHW =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 19 February 2012 09:26 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: opera 500 =20 Graham I have some filtering and the phone is not effected only the data = stream taking some hits.=20 It could well be an earth loop problem, must investigate further. Its a long time since I have been in Walmsley/Liverpool. I used = that route frequently Liverpool/Belfast but these days its = Cairnryan/Larne The mode is popular because it is easy to implement especially = with CW transmitters and C/D/E amplifiers.=20 73 de mal/g3kev =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:02 PM Subject: Re: LF: opera 500 =20 R Mal =20 Yes I cam across this some time ago with the first broad = band router, I brought one by edimax , not supposed to be the = best , but had a metal case and a real fcc licence , that was = fine , till adsl2 , the net-gear modem supplied was 100% u/s with = any Rf on any band .... =20 I brought the the newer version of the edimax , its not as = Rf proof as the old adsl-1 version, but for some reason , only = takes a hit on 160/80 =20 =20 Not too much you can do , apart from the usual Rf = chokes , could try a radio card from the router to the PC , if = that's where the Rf is being picked up ..unplug everything , see = if it crashes with just the phone line connected ? but with just = the driver , sounds a bit like a earth link .. depends how you have = the station wired up , i am in the top front room of the house , = so no direct earth , that's out in the shed , where the tuners = are , but I need to bond everything together to stop cable pick = up.. =20 73 -G.. =20 =20 =20 From: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 6:36 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: opera 500 =20 Yes Graham This seems to be the problem although it recovers quickly but = not quick enough. It happens with very little RF being transmitted at = the driver chip stage without the PA switched on. de mal/g3kev =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 1:00 PM Subject: Re: LF: opera 500 =20 Mal, =20 Are you sure the internet/broadband connection is not = being frozen by the TX . ?=20 =20 I have this problem on 160 and 80 for some reason , 10 = watts and the web traffic stops but oddly , no problem on the other bands ...so you can = miss the incoming spots .. check the psk map and you will see 'who' is decoding = you ..=20 =20 This is one of the reasons a server handling the ros & = opera s/n reports would be a good addition . but the problem = is finding some one or group who could construct such a piece of = software .. it can be located on the sever JR runs .... still = looking for offers on that ..=20 =20 73 -G.=20 =20 From: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 11:05 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: opera 500 =20 Tnx Albert But why am I not seeing this info on the right hand windiow. = You are S9 audible =20 mal/g3kev =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Albert=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 10:40 AM Subject: Re: LF: opera 500 =20 Op 18-2-2012 11:12, mal hamilton schreef:=20 mf Does anyone copy my op4 on 501.5 at present. No database = feedback from anyone=20 mal/g3kev =20 10:16 500 G3KEV de PA0LCE Op4 495 km -9 dB in LAGE MIERDE = JO21NJ 10:16 500 G3KEV de PA3ABK Op4 443 km -3 dB in Dordrecht 10:16 500 G3KEV de G3ZJO Op4 229 km -26 dB in Northampton 10:16 500 G3KEV de ON6EO Op4 -4 dB in JO11LE 10:16 500 G3KEV de PA0ONO Op4 421 km -13 dB in Rotterdam 10:16 500 G3KEV de PA0A Op4 461 km -1 dB in Lucaswolde = JO33DE 10:15 500 G3ZJO de G3ZJO Op4 0 km +6 dB in Northampton = with .0002w + 5m inv L-rx mini whip ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01CCEFED.7559D190 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3DGENERATOR><!--[if !mso]> <STYLE>v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } o\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } .shape { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } </STYLE> <![endif]--><o:SmartTagType name=3D"City"=20 namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype><o:SmartTagType=20 name=3D"place"=20 namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype><o:SmartTagType=20 name=3D"PersonName"=20 namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype><!--[if !mso]> <STYLE> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </STYLE> <![endif]--> <STYLE> <!--p.MSONORMAL {mso-style-unhide:no; mso-style-qformat:yes; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;} li.MSONORMAL {mso-style-unhide:no; mso-style-qformat:yes; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;} div.MSONORMAL {mso-style-unhide:no; mso-style-qformat:yes; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;} .MSOCHPDEFAULT {mso-default-props:yes; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;} /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin-top:0cm; margin-right:0cm; margin-bottom:10.0pt; margin-left:0cm; line-height:115%; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:Calibri; color:black;} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.EmailStyle18 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.EmailStyle19 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:Arial; color:navy;} @page Section1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </STYLE> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></HEAD> <BODY lang=3DEN-US id=3DMailContainerBody vLink=3Dblue link=3Dblue = bgColor=3Dwhite=20 leftMargin=3D0 topMargin=3D0 name=3D"Compose message area" = CanvasTabStop=3D"true"> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Ken</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Where did u get the 0 - 5 Mhz dds osc from ? = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>de mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dken.h.wright@btinternet.com=20 href=3D"mailto:ken.h.wright@btinternet.com">Ken</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 = href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= </A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 20, 2012 = 11:11=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: LF: opera = 500</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV class=3DSection1> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Hi=20 Mal.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Ok=20 you are bang on the line limit. I hope to be back on LF soon, = constructing a=20 HV power supply, the original project was designed for the 500kHz 10w = ERP=20 limits, now starting to re-design for the new LF band. Lucky they = don=92t use=20 470/475kHz Ifs any more. Just purchased 0 =96 5MHz DDS osc so = generating the=20 change in frequency is no problem, but need to do new input filters = for the RX=20 pre-amp, driver board for the 23W TX , transformers and PA for = the valve=20 TX not for the appliance operators you can tell an appliance operator = he has=20 no solder burns. On a different note have not heard anything = regarding=20 Finbar recently is he ok?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Regards.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Ken =20 M0KHW<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <DIV class=3DMsoNormal=20 style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; TEXT-ALIGN: center"=20 align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack = size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New = Roman'"> <HR tabIndex=3D-1 align=3Dcenter width=3D"100%" SIZE=3D2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = normal"><B><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; = FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">=20 owner-<st1:PersonName = w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>=20 [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName=20 w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>mal <st1:City=20 w:st=3D"on"><st1:place = w:st=3D"on">hamilton</st1:place></st1:City><BR><B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 20 February 2012 = 10:04<BR><B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName=20 w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: LF: opera=20 500</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack = size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New = Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN = style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = normal"><FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi=20 Ken</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack = size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New = Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = normal"><FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Yes = the filters=20 are fitted. I know how the system works as you describe it. Since the = common=20 denominator is the copper line I thought the RF would effect = both. My=20 line is probably 3 miles to the telephone exchange via various = junction boxes=20 etc and 30 plus years old. Not ideal and never intended to carry = high=20 speed data. The engineer did say my line was = noisy.</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New = Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = normal"><FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The = whole=20 country needs to be re-cabled with fibre optic cable now that = wideband=20 data is here to stay and make life easy for the Appliance=20 Operator</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack = size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New = Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = normal"><FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New = Roman'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = normal"><FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New = Roman'"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">mal/g3kev</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New = Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = normal"><FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New = Roman'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: = medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN: 5pt 0cm 5pt = 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: = medium none"> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = normal"><FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">-----=20 Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"> <P class=3DMsoNormal=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = normal"><B><FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A = title=3Dken.h.wright@btinternet.com=20 href=3D"mailto:ken.h.wright@btinternet.com">Ken</A>=20 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = normal"><B><FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A = title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 = href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= </A>=20 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = normal"><B><FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> = Sunday,=20 February 19, 2012 7:26 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = normal"><B><FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> = RE: LF:=20 opera 500<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = normal"><FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New = Roman'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi=20 Mal.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The=20 telephone portion is speech in the standard 300Hz =96 3400Hz speech = band=20 directly on the copper pairs, the DSL sits on top of this using the = DSLAM in=20 the exchange, that is why you have a =91Micro Filter=92 at each = telephone outlet=20 in the house, do you have a =91Micro Filter at each telephone=20 outlet?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Regards.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ken<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial">M0KHW<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 10pt"> <DIV class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: = center"=20 align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack = size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; = FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"> <HR tabIndex=3D-1 align=3Dcenter width=3D"100%" SIZE=3D2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = normal"><B><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; = FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> = <A=20 = href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org</A>=20 [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName=20 w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>mal <st1:place=20 w:st=3D"on"><st1:City = w:st=3D"on">hamilton</st1:City></st1:place><BR><B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 19 February 2012=20 11:29<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> = <st1:PersonName=20 = w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: LF: opera=20 500</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack = size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New = Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = normal"><FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Tnx = Ken=20 info</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack = size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New = Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = normal"><FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">No = overhead=20 lines around my QTH, all underground and there is no problem with = the=20 telephone regardless of power on any band.</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New = Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = normal"><FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Normally it=20 is not a problem with CW, SSB, or QRSS it is just a problem with = Opera=20 because of the data base feedback facility</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New = Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = normal"><FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">73 = de=20 mal/g3kev</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack = size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New = Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = normal"><FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New = Roman'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: = medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN: 5pt 0cm 5pt = 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: = medium none"> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = normal"><FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">-----=20 Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"> <P class=3DMsoNormal=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = normal"><B><FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> = <A=20 title=3Dken.h.wright@btinternet.com=20 href=3D"mailto:ken.h.wright@btinternet.com">Ken</A>=20 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal=20 style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><B><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> = <A=20 title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 = href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= </A>=20 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal=20 style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><B><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> = Sunday,=20 February 19, 2012 11:05 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal=20 style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><B><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> = RE: LF:=20 opera 500<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = normal"><FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times = New Roman'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi=20 Mal.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I=20 had the same problem until I went Fibre To The Cabinet (FTTC), if = you are=20 on a long local line especially if it is overhead, the most likely = there=20 will not be any DSL carriers above 500kHz, and what are present = will have=20 a very poor S/N ratio. I fitted common mode chokes on every piece = of cable=20 I could find and they made no difference, only a few watts at = 500kHz and=20 the lower HF bands would cause the DSL router to drop out and = re-train up.=20 I had my ex (pre-retirement) colleagues from BT Adastral = Park,=20 conduct measurements on my local line, (2.8km in length with 30m = of drop=20 wire) as part of a national survey, the line without the common = mode=20 chokes had no DSL carriers above 500kHz with an S/N less than = 10dB, with a=20 few watts of TX power with and without CMCs the remaining carriers = were=20 degraded sufficiently to cause the router to retrain. Another = cause could=20 be if you have drop wire there could be corrosion on any external = screw=20 terminals causing =91Rectified Joints=92 like the rusty bolt = effect on radio=20 masts, water getting into older types of drop wire can cause = corrosion on=20 the plated steel conductors.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hope=20 this helps.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ken =20 ex-BT Adastral Parkl<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial">M0KHW<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <DIV class=3DMsoNormal=20 style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; TEXT-ALIGN: = center"=20 align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack = size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times = New Roman'"> <HR tabIndex=3D-1 align=3Dcenter width=3D"100%" SIZE=3D2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal=20 style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><B><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; = FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> = owner-<st1:PersonName=20 w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>=20 [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName=20 w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] = <B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>mal <st1:place = w:st=3D"on"><st1:City = w:st=3D"on">hamilton</st1:City></st1:place><BR><B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 19 February 2012=20 09:26<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> = <st1:PersonName=20 = w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: LF: opera=20 500</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack = size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times = New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Graham</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I = have some=20 filtering and the phone is not effected only the data stream = taking some=20 hits. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">It could=20 well be an earth loop problem, must investigate=20 further.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Its a long=20 time since I have been in Walmsley/Liverpool. I used that route = frequently=20 Liverpool/Belfast but these days its=20 Cairnryan/Larne</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">The mode is=20 popular because it is easy to implement especially with CW = transmitters=20 and C/D/E amplifiers. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">73 de=20 mal/g3kev</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; = BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN: = 5pt 0cm 5pt 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; = BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">-----=20 Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"> <A=20 title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk=20 href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A>=20 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"> <A=20 title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 = href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= </A>=20 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">=20 Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:02 = PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"> Re: LF:=20 opera 500<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" = color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times = New Roman'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%">R=20 Mal<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%">Yes I = cam =20 across this some time ago with the = first broad band router, I brought = one by edimax , not supposed to be the = best ,=20 but had a metal case and a =20 real fcc licence , that was fine , = till=20 adsl2 , the net-gear modem supplied was = 100%=20 u/s with any Rf on any band=20 ....<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%">I brought the = the =20 newer version of the edimax , its = not =20 as Rf proof as the old adsl-1 version, = but =20 for some reason , only takes a = hit =20 on 160/80 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%">Not too = much you can do , apart from = the =20 usual Rf chokes , could try a = radio =20 card from the router to the PC , if that's = where =20 the Rf is being picked up = ..unplug =20 everything , see if it crashes = with just=20 the phone line connected ? but with just = the driver , sounds a bit like a earth link .. = depends=20 how you have the station wired up , i = am =20 in the top front room of the house , = so =20 no direct earth , that's out in = the =20 shed , where the tuners are , but I = need to bond everything together = to =20 stop cable pick = up..<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%">73=20 -G..<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Tahoma"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; = FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Tahoma"> <A=20 title=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net CTRL + Click to follow = link"=20 href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net">mal hamilton</A>=20 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; = FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Tahoma">=20 Saturday, February 18, 2012 6:36 = PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; = FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Tahoma"> <A=20 title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org CTRL + Click to = follow link"=20 = href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= </A>=20 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; = FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Tahoma"> Re: LF:=20 opera 500<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" = color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times = New Roman'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Yes=20 Graham</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">This=20 seems to be the problem although it recovers quickly but not = quick=20 enough. It happens with very little RF being transmitted at the = driver=20 chip stage without the PA switched=20 on.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">de=20 mal/g3kev</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; = BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN: = 5pt 0cm 5pt 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; = BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">-----=20 Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"> <A=20 title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk=20 href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A>=20 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"> <A=20 title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 = href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= </A>=20 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">=20 Saturday, February 18, 2012 1:00 = PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"> Re:=20 LF: opera 500<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" = color=3Dblack=20 size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = 'Times New Roman'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%">Mal,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%">Are = you sure=20 the internet/broadband connection is = not =20 being frozen by the TX . ?=20 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%">I have this = problem on 160 and 80 for some = reason ,=20 10 watts and the web traffic=20 stops<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%">but oddly , = no =20 problem on the other bands ...so you = can =20 miss the incoming spots=20 ..<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%">check = the =20 psk map and you will see 'who' = is =20 decoding you .. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%">This = is one of=20 the reasons a server handling = the =20 ros & opera s/n = reports =20 would be a good addition . but = the =20 problem is finding some one or group = who=20 could construct such a piece of software .. = it=20 can be located on the = sever =20 JR runs .... still looking for =20 offers on that .. = <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%">73 -G.=20 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Tahoma"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Tahoma"> <A=20 title=3Dg3kevmal@talktalk.net = href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net">mal=20 hamilton</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Tahoma">=20 Saturday, February 18, 2012 11:05=20 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Tahoma"> <A=20 title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 = href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= </A>=20 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Tahoma"> Re:=20 LF: opera 500<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" = color=3Dblack=20 size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = 'Times New Roman'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Tnx=20 Albert</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">But why=20 am I not seeing this info on the right hand windiow. You are = S9=20 audible</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">mal/g3kev</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; = BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN: = 5pt 0cm 5pt 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; = BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">-----=20 Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"> <A=20 title=3Dwestberg@xs4all.nl = href=3D"mailto:westberg@xs4all.nl">Albert</A>=20 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"> <A=20 title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 = href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= </A>=20 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">=20 Saturday, February 18, 2012 10:40=20 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"> Re:=20 LF: opera 500<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" = color=3Dblack=20 size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = 'Times New Roman'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%">Op 18-2-2012 = 11:12, mal=20 <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City=20 w:st=3D"on">hamilton</st1:City></st1:place> schreef:=20 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">mf</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Does=20 anyone copy my op4 on 501.5 at present. No database feedback = from=20 anyone </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">mal/g3kev</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dblack = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; LINE-HEIGHT: = 115%"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: = auto"><FONT face=3DArial=20 color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">10:16 =20 500 G3KEV de PA0LCE Op4 495 km -9 dB in LAGE MIERDE=20 JO21NJ<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: = auto"><FONT face=3DArial=20 color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">10:16 =20 500 G3KEV de PA3ABK Op4 443 km -3 dB in <st1:place=20 w:st=3D"on"><st1:City=20 = w:st=3D"on">Dordrecht</st1:City></st1:place><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>= <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: = auto"><FONT face=3DArial=20 color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">10:16 =20 500 G3KEV de G3ZJO Op4 229 km -26 dB in <st1:place=20 w:st=3D"on"><st1:City=20 = w:st=3D"on">Northampton</st1:City></st1:place><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></= P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: = auto"><FONT face=3DArial=20 color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">10:16 =20 500 G3KEV de ON6EO Op4 -4 dB in=20 JO11LE<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: = auto"><FONT face=3DArial=20 color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">10:16 =20 500 G3KEV de PA0ONO Op4 421 km -13 dB in <st1:place=20 w:st=3D"on"><st1:City=20 = w:st=3D"on">Rotterdam</st1:City></st1:place><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>= <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: = auto"><FONT face=3DArial=20 color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial">10:16 =20 500 G3KEV de PA0A Op4 461 km -1 dB in Lucaswolde=20 JO33DE<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: = auto"><FONT face=3DArial=20 color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">10:15 =20 500 G3ZJO de G3ZJO Op4 0 km +6 dB in <st1:place = w:st=3D"on"><st1:City=20 w:st=3D"on">Northampton</st1:City></st1:place> with .0002w + = 5m inv=20 L-rx mini=20 = whip<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><= /BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><LINK=20 href=3D"file:///C:%5CUsers%5CAlbert%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CTemp%5Cmsohtmlcli= p1%5C01%5Cclip_themedata.thmx"=20 rel=3DthemeData><LINK=20 href=3D"file:///C:%5CUsers%5CAlbert%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CTemp%5Cmsohtmlcli= p1%5C01%5Cclip_colorschememapping.xml"=20 rel=3DcolorSchemeMapping></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01CCEFED.7559D190--