Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11875 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2000 17:26:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by teachers.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 8 Jan 2000 17:26:39 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 126zR1-0000Wr-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2000 17:13:51 +0000 Received: from mta01.talk21.com ([62.172.192.171] helo=t21mta01-app.talk21.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 126zR0-0000Wm-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2000 17:13:50 +0000 Received: from dave ([213.1.32.160]) by t21mta01-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP id <20000108171611.IRMB1955.t21mta01-app.talk21.com@dave> for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:16:11 +0000 Message-ID: <003901bf59fb$b570dfc0$a02001d5@dave> From: "Dave Sergeant" To: "rsgb_lf_group" Subject: LF: CFH Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:12:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: >From Dave G3YMC Some more points of musing. G0MRF asks what the signal to noise ratio is for CFH. Noise varies enormously between different QTHs, however the signal I receive from CFH during the night and around dawn is s9+10. or 14uV on my quite sensitive receiver (DCF39 is 45uV). To put this into perspective this is just a little below the signals I get from John G4GVC and Dave G3YXM, and stronger than quite a few of the regulars. It certainly prevents use of 137 and around while it is there! It is now suggested that CFH is running 250kW, rather than the 25kW mentioned earlier in the year. That will add another 10dB to any calculations! The single hop propogation distance was also mentioned a few weeks ago as being between 1724 and 1988km. CFH is 4593km from here, so it is likely to be 2 hop with the reflection layer being a little higher than suggested in those mails, and with a sea hop in the middle. The distance to WA2XTF/6 is 5880km, which presumably can only be achieved with 3 hops, one of which may be over land, which will obviously increase the path loss. Clearly there is hope for a QSO into VE1 land (if CFH is off!), but I remain pessimistic even of W2 land. Many thanks to Jon and the other guys at CFH. Calculation of CFH propogation is invaluable in the quest for an eventual transatlantic amateur QSO, although once the novelty of hearing it has worn off it becomes rather more QRM than DX! If only we could get the same sort of rapport with the staff who man the Rugby station on 73.4! 73s Dave G3YMC dsergeant@iee.org http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/sergeantd