Return-Path: Received: from rly-de01.mx.aol.com (rly-de01.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.137]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE061-4b34af9aec01d8; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:20:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE018-4b34af9aec01d8; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:19:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7vIW-00082A-TD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:18:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7vIW-000821-7r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:18:32 +0000 Received: from out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7vHj-000081-4W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:17:44 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmAFAJ49+UpOlvhr/2dsb2JhbACCIy6BaTiJGL91gg0IjwOCTQiBFVQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,717,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="77145014" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.248.107]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 10 Nov 2009 18:17:56 +0000 Message-ID: <003801ca6232$239b5630$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:18:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01CA6232.23621DC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01CA6232.23621DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dennis These Beacon Appliance unattended machine operators are causing QRM ga= lore to the Radio Amateur in QSO mode. The present band has insufficient bandwidth to accommodate unattended= beacon modes, with real time QSO'S one can avoid QRM or QRX until the= QRG is clear, whereas Beacons just belch out repeative gibberish and= the same persons respond via the reflector daily with the same old re= ports. You are quite right to make your point known.=20 73 de mal/g3kev =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:12 PM Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Congratulations Chris. Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the top end of the band and= are not too much trouble. Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he sits= on my xtl frequency and is so close. Maybe a compromise would be fo= r people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully= not 502.2 kHz -hee) 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Osborn=20 To: LF Group=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 60= 0m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were= 600m / 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and= EI0CF - No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QR= SS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and= many of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in Marc= h 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excludi= ng beacons). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard= of again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UN= T, G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the= same stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of= my total contacts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (al= as now SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM= - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a= cross-band QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for= the WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which aft= er all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF ma= rine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stati= ons operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band= then I guess it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01CA6232.23621DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dennis
These Beacon Appliance unattended mac= hine operators=20 are causing QRM galore to the Radio Amateur in QSO mode.
The present band has insufficient ban= dwidth to=20 accommodate unattended beacon modes, with real time QSO'S one can avoi= d QRM or=20 QRX until the QRG is clear, whereas Beacons just belch out repeative= gibberish=20 and the same persons respond via the reflector daily with the same old= =20 reports.
You are quite right&nb= sp;to make=20 your point known.
73 de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 10,= 2009 4:12=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000= th MF=20 QSO

Congratulations Chris.
 
Most wspr stations seem to congrega= te at the top=20 end of the band and are not too much trouble.    Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he= sits on my xtl frequency=20 and is so close.   Maybe a compromise would be for people= using=20 beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully not 502.2 kHz= =20 -hee)
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Chr= is Osborn=20
Sent: Sunday, November 08,= 2009 6:03=20 PM
Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000= th MF=20 QSO

LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000= th QSO=20 using 600m.
This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all= of which=20 were 600m / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners= up G3XPU=20 - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998.

QSO break-down according to= mode:=20     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and   5= =20 QRSS

600m=20 STATIONS

My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a= total of=20 59 stations and many of= these go back=20 to the start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of= these I=20 have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons)= .
Many=20 stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of= =20 again:  G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active bu= t have=20 subsequently gone QRT:  G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With=20 so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same= stations=20 many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total=20 contacts.
My most frequently worked stations are:

GW3UEP= -=20 120     G3KEV - 102    &nb= sp; M0FMT=20 - 90     G3ZWH  -  80  (alas no= w=20 SK)
G3DXZ    -   67   &= nbsp;=20 G4GDR -   60      EI0CF/ GI4DPE=  =20 -  51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT    -&nbs= p; =20 45     G3VTT  -   38

CROSS-BAND AND EU=20 STATIONS

There are a few 'regular' stations who list= en to 600m=20 and enjoy a cross-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE= , G3TVF .=20 . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ,= OR7T and=20 OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR= ON=20 600m

I personally find it sad that the present level= of=20 enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved for  hand sen= t Morse=20 (CW), which after all is the mode which I call to mind when thinki= ng of the=20 old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with= more and=20 stronger stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which= is the=20 600m band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY.

73 Chris=20 G3XIZ







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