Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4363 invoked from network); 26 Dec 2004 19:43:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Dec 2004 19:43:50 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CieG9-000HjO-Je for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 19:40:58 +0000 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CieG9-000HjJ-AI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 19:40:57 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CieIv-000N4H-Ev for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 19:43:49 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1CieIW-0004v8-Mk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 19:43:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1CieIW-0004uz-A2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 19:43:24 +0000 Received: from mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8] helo=mta10-winn.mailhost.ntl.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1CieIO-0004Pp-3o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 19:43:24 +0000 Received: from aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta10-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20041226194310.EFTI15581.mta10-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 19:43:10 +0000 Received: from captbrian ([80.1.84.62]) by aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with SMTP id <20041226194309.LAAF769.aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@captbrian> for ; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 19:43:09 +0000 Message-ID: <003601c4eb83$64d154e0$3e540150@captbrian> From: "captbrian" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <009d01c4eaf4$38a9fa00$0500a8c0@charter.net> <02e901c4eaf7$9e0b9f40$0201a8c0@private.network> <002d01c4eb56$c53c6180$0500a8c0@charter.net> <001801c4eab9$b4d62940$c8e4fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 19:45:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.250.162.8 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of ukonline.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: Re: LF: Trans Atlantic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Regardless of appellations used in the licence, a station transmitting for pure amateur pleasure with no professional/commercial intent is by all standards of English usage... an "amateur radio station"...[your honor, My Lord, Judge, Maitre, Ref. ) etc. G3GVB ----- Original Message ----- From: hamilton mal To: Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 7:40 PM Subject: Re: LF: Trans Atlantic > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Andrews" > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 2:10 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Trans Atlantic > > > > Scott, > > > > Thanks for the reminder from the VE side. I now remember an earlier email > > exchange on that subject. And I do agree with your caution in not straying > > from the purpose of the grant. > > > > I suppose the same argument could be made from elsewhere. Has anyone > plumbed > > the depths of U.K. officialdom on the subject of communicating with > > non-Amateur services? Or is it best just to leave such things alone? > > > > The problem is actually not with making the 2-way contact; it is with the > > resulting publicity! If such news were confined to a small group of > > experimenters, nothing would probably come from it. > > > > John Andrews > > Hi John and Group > My licence EI2AE says Experimenters Licence and not Radio Amateur Licence. I > expect all EI licences say the same. > Maybe it has been changed to accommodate recripocal licensing arrangements > with other countries that specify Radio Amateur Licence. The main point > being that anyone can interwork between EI and the rest of the world, so by > the same logic I do not think there would be a problem in the UK working an > experimental type station in the USA or elswhere. > The problem might be at your end if it specifically states only inter PART > 15 contacts. > So you take a chance or you dont!!!!!!!! If we were all closed down would > it make that much difference!! > de Mal/G3KEV > > > > > > > > > > >