Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16781 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2002 12:47:34 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Dec 2002 12:47:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 27140 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2002 12:46:13 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Dec 2002 12:46:12 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18QoQw-0006Ye-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Dec 2002 12:45:18 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.46] (helo=mta6-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18QoQw-0006YV-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Dec 2002 12:45:18 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.204.137]) by mta6-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021224124517.UFTF21179.mta6-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Tue, 24 Dec 2002 12:45:17 +0000 Message-ID: <003601c2ab4a$46750940$89ccfc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c2aaa4$3a7e2820$9ce8fc3e@l8p8y6> <005401c2ab1e$499d2840$035e89d9@jackie> Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 12:44:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Loops again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Thompson" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 7:30 AM Subject: LF: Re: Loops again > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: hamilton mal > To: > Sent: 23 December 2002 16:55 > Subject: LF: Loops again > > > With all the loop talk that has been going on since before time began has > anyone found a design for a near perfect small loop, suppose its like how > long is a piece of string, obviously the bigger the better but then there is > the diminishing returns senario, it there much noticeable difference between > a 2 meter side square loop and a 4meter. > Which is better a single turn loop, several turns in series, several turns > in parallel and the best method of feed and matching at the loop. > ------------------ > This site gives a good treatise on loop antennas from first principles, and > provides the maths to let you consider what to expect with changes in size > and numbers of turns. > > http://www.ece.mcmaster.ca/faculty/georgieva/temp/Antennas_L11.pdf > > Steve Thanks Steve. Its a wonderful article and has certainly refreshed my mathematical skills. It starts off by saying that small loops are very INEFFICIENT and because of the high losses really only suitable for Receiving purposes. Not very promising. 73 De G3KEV > > >