Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23802 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2000 10:22:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 28 Jun 2000 10:22:15 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 137Et3-000895-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:16:05 +0100 Received: from tomts2.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.140] helo=tomts2-srv.bellnexxia.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 137Et2-00088O-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:16:04 +0100 Received: from server1 ([206.172.245.112]) by tomts2-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20000628101600.XMJU19472.tomts2-srv.bellnexxia.net@server1> for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 06:16:00 -0400 Message-ID: <003601bfe0e8$bae186c0$0a00a8c0@server1.ThreeLakes.ca> From: "Larry Kayser" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Wire, for LF Antennas Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 06:06:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Greetings: Preparations continue for TransAtlantic II, the test transmissions from here in Eastern Ontario on 137.710 kHz are now heard widely in the USA and Canada. Moving forward through the lists of things and issues to be worked on, the subject of WIRE for LF antennas comes up. The objective of this email is to have a discussion with active LF amateurs that will ensure for me at the end of the day that the best alternatives have been discovered and considered for use here. The current antenna here for the test transmissions is made from what we here call common antenna wire, 7 strands of semi hard copper wire, commonly known as 7/24. For LF the type of wire is marginal, when used for long spans it stretches and anneals, becomes eventually very brittle and fails. A lousy wire solution for long spans associated with LF antennas. The LF test antenna here is far from optimum because I simply do not dare to stretch the wire harder with the rope that pulls the antenna away from the supporting tower. The alternative selections available here are very limited. There is a reasonable quantity of semi hard drawn solid copper wire #12, commonly used by the Broadcast Station industry. I use this for MF/HF antennas but it is also subject to annealing and stretching. We have available an insulated wire known variously as "FlexWeave", similar to Litz wire but without the shellac to hold the wire together. This is around 75 and 150 strands in the two sizes that are usually available. The issue here again is strength, 150 Meter spans do not last very long. The last is the good old copper clad steel wire, not much copper any more but usually pretty good for long spans. Sources of this product are limited, a good source here in Canada would be a help. What are the other alternatives that you are using in your setup? Why are they good? What is the usual cost in your area? If you were looking at spans of up to 300 Meters what would you use for an antenna wire? Not a glorious subject, but one which is important to the LF community. Your comments are solicited. Larry VA3LK