Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dj02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dj02.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.19.187.138]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA043-b5194d19d5f2134; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 07:20:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dj02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 8F71138000182; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 07:20:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PXYWO-0006LK-FY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 12:19:20 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PXYWN-0006L7-LW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 12:19:19 +0000 Received: from out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.244]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PXYWK-0008HO-QG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 12:19:19 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAEZkGU1Ok8hL/2dsb2JhbACSDgOSHnO/VYVKBIFgjFuCWw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,239,1291593600"; d="scan'208,217";a="473953593" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([78.147.200.75]) by out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 28 Dec 2010 12:19:09 +0000 Message-ID: <003501cba689$6a782460$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <77525.18216.qm@web28511.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><470957.28626.qm@web28506.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><727958.85140.qm@web28503.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><4D18F93F.5070700@iup.uni-heidelberg.de><002101cba625$77907df0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf><4D192F5D.3090609@iup.uni-heidelberg.de><002101cba674$48e1dd10$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 12:19:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: M in 4X Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0032_01CBA689.6A119A60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039cdbc9d064d19d5f03ca4 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01CBA689.6A119A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok Chris I was on 136.319 to start with at qrs3. I am able to get into the Mosc= ow grabber with a strong signal when the grabber is on. In the past I= have had QSO'S on normal CW with RN6BN on 137 Kcs. It should not be= a problem to work 4X4 on CW or QRS3 73 GL De mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Gomoiu=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 10:14 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: M in 4X Hello Mal, Stefan, LF, I don't think the 136.320 line you see on my grabber is your signal= Mal, it's there all the time so it has to be a spurious and a very st= able one :-) My antenna is not yet optimized, I have made some tests with an acti= ve probe and will install it this week. Looks like there will be an im= provement in SNR and hope to lower the sporadic high QRM level I'm exp= eriencing in my location by placing it further away from the offending= source (still to be identified, it could be from the outside mains wi= ring). If signals are strong enough I will eventually make available a fast= er QRSS window. 73s Chris 4X1RF On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:47 AM, mal hamilton wrote: Tnx Stefan But it is difficult to cover all speeds and frequencies although= the majority use QRS3 on this band. The most popular frequency area is= around 137.7 for inter EU qso acty daytime and evenings. Your Grabber is working fb at present. I am able to see my signal= all day long as well as evening time. There are currently a good many stations/countries active on the band at present. 73 HNY de mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 12:29 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: M in 4X That's a good idea! I should try to convince him to add a QRSS-3= window. :-) DK7FC Am 28.12.2010 01:23, schrieb mal hamilton: > Unfortunately the grabber is running too slow for my QRS 3 on = 136.320 > but I can see the weak trace. > g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:38 PM > Subject: LF: M in 4X > > > >> LF, >> >> M, is think Markus/DF6NM is very well received in Haifa at 4X1R= F: >> http://qsl.net/4x1rf/lf/lfgrabber.htm >> >> The 4X1RF grabber is very sensitive again, after some days of= local QRM, >> it seems :-) >> >> Very nice and an interesting goal! >> >> Will other stations try to appear there as well, tonight? >> >> Has a US station been able to apperat there so far? :-) >> >> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >> >> > ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01CBA689.6A119A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok Chris
I was on 136.319 to start with at qrs= 3. I am able=20 to get into the Moscow grabber with a strong signal when the grabber= is on. In=20 the past I have had QSO'S on normal CW with RN6BN on 137 Kcs. It shoul= d not be a=20 problem to work 4X4 on CW or QRS3
73 GL De mal/g3kev
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 28,= 2010 10:14=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: M in 4X<= /DIV>

Hello Mal, Stefan, LF,

I don't think the 136.3= 20 line you=20 see on my grabber is your signal Mal, it's there all the time so it= has to be=20 a spurious and a very stable one :-)

My antenna is not yet op= timized, I=20 have made some tests with an active probe and will install it this= week. Looks=20 like there will be an improvement in SNR and hope to lower the spora= dic high=20 QRM level I'm experiencing in my location by placing it further away= from the=20 offending source (still to be identified, it could be from the outsi= de mains=20 wiring).

If signals are strong enough I will eventually make= available=20 a faster QRSS window.

73s
Chris 4X1RF


On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:47 AM, mal hamil= ton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>=20 wrote:
Tnx=20 Stefan
But it is difficult to cover all speeds and frequencies= although=20 the
majority use QRS3 on this band. The most popular frequency= area is=20 around
137.7 for inter EU qso acty daytime and evenings.
You= r Grabber=20 is working fb at present. I am able to see my signal all day
lo= ng as well=20 as evening time. There are currently a good many
stations/count= ries=20  active on the band at present.
73 HNY de mal/G3KEV
-----=20 Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" <schaefer@iup.uni-heidelbe= rg.de>
To:=20 <rsgb_lf_= group@blacksheep.org>
Sent:=20 Tuesday, December 28, 2010 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: M in= =20 4X


That's a good idea! I should try to convince him to= add a=20 QRSS-3 window. :-)

DK7FC

Am 28.12.2010 01:23, schrie= b mal=20 hamilton:
> Unfortunately the grabber is running too slow fo= r my QRS 3=20 on     136.320
> but I can see the weak trace.
= >=20 g3kev
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:= "Stefan=20 Sch=E4fer"<schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>
>=20 To:<rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>=20 Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:38 PM
> Subject: LF: M in= =20 4X
>
>
>
>> LF,
>>
>>= M, is=20 think Markus/DF6NM is very well received in Haifa at 4X1RF:
>= ;> http://qsl.net/4x1rf/lf/lfgrabber.htm
>>>>=20 The 4X1RF grabber is very sensitive again, after some days of loca= l=20 QRM,
>> it seems :-)
>>
>> Very nice an= d an=20 interesting goal!
>>
>> Will other stations try= to appear=20 there as well, tonight?
>>
>> Has a US station= been able=20 to apperat there so far? :-)
>>
>> 73,=20 Stefan/DK7FC
>>
>>
>




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