Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC011-b15476fe0d4277; Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:40:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC041-b15476fe0d4277; Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:39:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1J6qK0-0005qZ-SE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:38:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1J6qK0-0005qQ-0Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:38:32 +0000 Received: from smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.68]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1J6qJw-0006pd-PS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:38:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 43994 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2007 16:38:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=vEabnYGCQUObdJ8W4wk2XdXfODyRxSIu+s9vwbn56QAPpruBvRO4F4wEpNejbSNKOPtx/h7pVT4aUIiHXiNVRNIH3v190hF0HioZj+egPeZZmf/zocaTiTPdNFG2+lbYC0m9dVQxpa5CqiAtnRnw3b9WyhX5eJRWA6ClNknfpzQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.50.19 with login) by smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2007 16:38:22 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: BoYtk7YVM1kCTR8V76ABt9gD9wxKNyVwDkO2DBWSa1F.QHmrcdqxmsdksUeQBDgul5DqJEPa_UOfLsvcJOQ8J3Q- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.516 [269.17.7/1194]); Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:36:04 +0000 Message-ID: <003301c8464b$13a91a00$13327ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:36:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: E-field probes. Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01C8464B.137FE720" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, UP_TO_OR_MORES autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C8464B.137FE720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear David, LF Group, There are plenty of broadband active whip designs that will work up to 30MHz= or more, mostly depending on the amplifier bandwidth. I imagine an issue wi= th using such a design on a satellite would be that it would have to work in= close proximity to VHF/UHF transmitters, which would be likely to grossly o= verload the whip preamp without some sort of selectivity at the antenna, so=20= some kind of tuned whip or loop might be more appropriate. Another possibil= ity might be to design a diplexer/receive preamp to make use of an existing=20= higher frequency antenna element as the 29MHz receive antenna. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message -----=20 From: G0MRF@aol.com=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 3:04 PM Subject: LF: E-field probes. Seasons greetings all. Does anyone know if the e-field probe can be adatped to HF frequencies? Some of you will know I am a member of Amsat and we have an opportunity wh= ere we could propose a single frequency 29MHz 'SSB' receiver on a satellite.= However, as we will not be allowed a large traditional antenna. I wondere= d if I could propose an e-field probe for 29MHz. Is there any data / design information anywhere which may help make a deci= sion? Regards David G0MRF ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C8464B.137FE720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear David, LF Group,
 
There are plenty of broadband active whip designs that will work up to=20 30MHz or more, mostly depending on the amplifier bandwidth. I imagine an iss= ue=20 with using such a design on a satellite would be that it would have to work=20= in=20 close proximity to VHF/UHF transmitters, which would be likely to grossly=20 overload the whip preamp without some sort of selectivity at the antenna, so= =20 some kind of  tuned whip or loop might be more appropriate. Another=20 possibility might be to design a diplexer/receive preamp to make use of an=20 existing higher frequency antenna element as the 29MHz receive=20 antenna.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
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Seasons greetings all.
 
Does anyone know if the e-field probe can be adatped to HF=20 frequencies?
 
Some of you will know I am a member of Amsat and we have an opportuni= ty=20 where we could propose a single frequency 29MHz 'SSB' receiver on a=20 satellite.  However, as we will not be allowed a large traditional=20 antenna.  I wondered if I could propose an e-field probe for 29MHz.
 
Is there any data / design information anywhere which may help make a= =20 decision?
 
Regards
 
David  G0MRF
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