Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11444 invoked from network); 25 Dec 2003 00:36:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Dec 2003 00:36:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 79625 invoked from network); 25 Dec 2003 00:36:15 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Dec 2003 00:36:14 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1AZJU6-000KbW-A3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 00:36:14 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1AZJTV-00072V-CO for rs_out@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 00:35:37 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.176] (helo=protactinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1AZJTU-00072M-JJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 00:35:36 +0000 Received: from [213.122.11.246] (helo=Main) by protactinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #25) id 1AZJTT-0001KW-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 00:35:36 +0000 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (Main) Message-ID: <003101c3ca7f$42d94b20$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <6.0.1.1.2.20031224113817.0381be40@POP3.freeler.nl> <004101c3ca6c$58838980$5ace28c3@erica> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 00:34:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Rope Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Hi both, could I ask if the said insulator is fitted with an "anti-corona" ring. Severe changes in direction of the wire can produce quite high voltage gradients, even when not at the end of the run. Another thought is to series connect....ie put a "egg" in the short rope length. This will be effective if it is a "leakage" current but not if it is corona, which can act rather like a small blow-torch. This is why it pits the surface of the insulators. Cheers and Happy Christmas de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "g3ldo" To: Sent: 24 December 2003 22:17 Subject: LF: Re: Rope > Dick Rollema said > ----------------------- > Starting transmitting the aerial ammeter swayed wildly and I heard a > disturbing noise outside. It appeared that one half of the aerial had come > down. > It turned out that one hoisting rope had been burned through where it had > passed the pulley. Between the pulley and the "pyrex" insulator had been > some 15cm of rope. But it had been raining for several days and the rope > bust have been soaking wet. See the attachments; the top end of the rope was > on the pulley > > I intend to replace the rope and to insert extra ceramic insulators of the > dog bone type as I have supplied to several British amateurs (they come from > the closed down "Radio Kootwijk" commercial PTT-station). > > ----------------------- > > I have had this trouble even when using Dick's "Radio Kootwijk" insulators. > It only seems to happen where there is a short length of insulated rope > between the insulator and the support. What seems to happen is that the > insulator eventually becomes dirty (in my case covered with a thin film of > salt). This, together with wet weather conditions, produces a conduction > path that can carbonise the short rope support. The fix is to use copper > wire between the insulator and the support fixing point. > After a storm at sea I have seen blue spark tracts running along the salt > coated insulator but this arrangement has not failed. However the insulator > should be cleaned because such sparking causes minor damage to the surface > of the insulator. > > The problem reported by Dick doesn't seem to happen where there is a long > rope from the insulator to the support structure. > > > Peter, G3LDO > > > > > > > > >