Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6179 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2000 16:37:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 1 Dec 2000 16:37:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 10652 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2000 16:40:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 1 Dec 2000 16:40:00 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 141t7O-0006SD-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2000 16:33:02 +0000 Received: from cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk ([195.92.195.171]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 141t7M-0006S0-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2000 16:33:00 +0000 Received: from modem-10.neon.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.9.10] helo=default) by cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 141t7B-00062e-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2000 16:32:49 +0000 Message-ID: <003101c05bb3$a91b8300$0a09883e@default> From: "MAL HAMILTON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: Datong VLF Converter Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 11:15:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: -----Original Message----- From: Martin Evans To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: 25 November 2000 13:26 Subject: LF: Datong VLF Converter >Hi all! > >Just as a matter of interest, I've compared the direct reception of 136kHz >using a TS950SD, with a Datong converter using the TS950 as the ten-metre >IF. Using a 40 metre inverted L antenna, untuned, and with 9db attenuation >in front of the Datong to eliminate overloading, I can see no significant >difference in the reception of CFH between the two methods- so the 950 seems >to be a decent 136kHz receiver! Anybody got any comments on this? I would be >interested in hearing of other opinions of the 950 as a receiver on this >band. Having tamed a datong converter by adding about 40 db attenuation between antenna and converter it seemed to work very well. Without the attenuation it was terrible with severe overload. I understand they were meant to be used with short antennas and not my 120 ft vertical inv L system. With my antenna I have tried several receivers direct from antenna and there is very little difference amongst them. IC746, FT1000MP, TS50, IC706 ( pre amp on ) TS570. These receivers are all fitted with the narrowest cw filters available. With a smaller antenna things might be different regarding signal over noise and sensitivity. I also tried a FT847 with narrow filters and it was not as good as the others. The IC 706 is almost on par with the others with pre amp on and a large antenna, but you do need the 250 hz cw filter and an external DSP unit for the required selectivity. I tried a smaller antenna and the sensitivity was low. I also use the 706 as a stable driver for the tx on 13.6 mhz and divide down by 100. Use vfo A for tx and vfo B for rx. All controlled from one switch. The same procedure can be used on 73 khz. Divide down from 7.3 mhz. I have arranged an extra rx output for another rx if necessary. This is old hat, others are probably doing the same thing but it is the most convenient way of driving your big PA and guarantees a stable signal, no wobbly or jumpy signals. I key the PA and not the transceiver drive. 73 de Mal/G3KEV > >Martin Evans GW3UCJ > > > > > > > >