Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10563 invoked from network); 21 May 2000 22:37:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by teachers.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 21 May 2000 22:37:15 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12teCi-0007vE-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 May 2000 23:28:12 +0100 Received: from gadolinium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.111] helo=gadolinium) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12teCh-0007v9-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 May 2000 23:28:11 +0100 Received: from [213.1.183.63] (helo=default) by gadolinium with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12teCc-0007Ik-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 May 2000 23:28:09 +0100 Message-ID: <003101bfc373$c05f7540$3fb701d5@default> From: "Alan Melia" To: "rsgb_lf_group" Subject: LF: Morse tones and spacial filters Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 23:05:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Dave and Larry raise an interesting effect, that I noticed myself when idly monitoring the band on the speaker (move your head around to select the signal you want to copy). The effect is caused, I think, by the selection of a position of the ear where multiple audio paths add in phase for the required tone. The noise is not affected or may even have it high and low frequencies attenuated by the size of nearby objects in relation to the wavelength and absorption by furnishings (or tent walls on FD). I believe the effect is an analogue of the technique used in digital filtering called Finite Impulse Reponse (FIR) filters, where delayed copies of a signal are added together can produce a very selective output. I have noticed that whilst I often copy signals at tone frequencies up to 1800Hz, if I find the going difficult I can read the same signals better at around 600-800Hz. Strangely enough this is not where the ear is supposed to be the most sensitive (1000 Hz to 1400Hz I seem to remember) which may be why the is a lot of reference to 1000Hz tones. In the case of static-crashes I agree that getting as much as possible over between the crashes with repetitions is undoubtably the best way, but I don't think you work really weak stations under those conditions. I have listened to pairs of continental stations late in the evening who are probably good strength with each other pushing along at a reasonable speed. They were down in the normal band noise (not crashes) with me making copy very difficult as I seemed to miss the 'dots'. In these conditions I find the slow deliberate sending easier to read, and I use a pencil. (BUT then I am not by any stretch of the imagination a morse operator..... but I do try!) The problem I found with Jim was that having the AGC on to give an S-meter reading, meant the crashes carved up the copy (with the AOR 7030 it is not easy to flip the AGC on and off....ergonomics is not one of its strong points) All the comments have been most instructive, it keeps me trying, and maybe my ability is improving slightly ( I hope). I look forward to learning more from the Thesis that Dick mentioned. Cheers de Alan G3NYK Alan.Melia@btinternet.com