Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25820 invoked from network); 26 Jul 1999 16:31:08 +0100 Received: from magnus.plus.net.uk (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 26 Jul 1999 16:31:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 31899 invoked from network); 26 Jul 1999 15:33:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 26 Jul 1999 15:33:44 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 118mOt-00000n-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:10:47 +0100 Received: from [143.179.236.32] (helo=Lesothosaurus.big-orange.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 118mOr-000006-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:10:45 +0100 Received: from w8k3f0 ([143.179.151.62]) by Lesothosaurus.big-orange.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAC4897; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:09:27 +0200 Message-ID: <003101bed779$8c92d400$3e97b38f@w8k3f0> From: "Dick Rollema" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "Klaas Spaargaren, PA0KSB" , "Jan Hekkert, PA3HCD" , "Ger van Went, PA0GER" Subject: LF: Re: Who uses EZNEC Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:05:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sender: >From PA0SE Gamal Soegioeno wrote: >Hello all, > >does anyone of you have experience with EZNEC modelling software? > >As far as I know, this is the only software (except for the original but >cumbersome NEC) capable of modelling the ground influence on >antenna feedpoint Impedance as well as on far field diagram AND >incorporating the conductor conductivity. > >Most other programs account for ground influence on far field diagram, >but not on feed impedance, conductor losses are omitted. > >It might be worthwhile to simulate antenna arrangements with EZNEC, >using an elevated Radial System. Radials need not have resonant >length, but might be "lengthened" by a radial loading coil in addition >to the vertical radiator's loading coil. > >73 de Gamal > Dear Gamal, I use NEC/WIRES by Brian Beezley, K6STI. It uses real ground also for computing feed point impedance. But it cannot handle antennas fed against ground, like Marconi's. Antenna Optimizer by K6STI can do that but assumes perfect ground for impedance calculation. Both programs also take care of wire losses. I see no more advertisements by K6STI so perhaps he moved out of the business. Together with PA0KSB I did some modelling of mobile antennas, PA0KSB using EZNEC and I used K6STI's software. We got the same answers but I have the impression that EZNEC is easier to use. If I had to buy now I would go for EZNEC. But mind that it does not work for the surface wave. See an earlier e-mail from maker W9EL to me that I have put on the reflector. Only the expensive professional versions of these sort of programs provide the surface wave. 73, Dick, PA0SE