Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINME072-9b24892137694; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:33:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME046-9b24892137694; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:33:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KOdsk-0007Th-Qg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:32:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KOdsk-0007TY-Cc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:32:14 +0100 Received: from smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.66]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KOdsh-0004iA-Ie for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:32:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 80939 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2008 19:32:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=5AKc/d+ghd+uMhAVU6GWR1t93o1Sc0Ryd/X8w8E9SSLmfmZEeOdKyOoF50hrI3KJTL5dT2Ez6pC7JTVyqkJdbeVeGemALg/ZIKR5ZVqEbDRgm9NNVUy3eLPcmAPveeMMMAIO9w6g712RReSl3c7X4VGN/x5V4rlOMRZ+5urFBaM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.56.69 with login) by smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 2008 19:32:03 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: xUrPfd4VM1nbH7kdh8xTmacF_N0ax.l.UlTCXA4JHzTvXTzMdgi4_GRDVdrmD6tjwFjQJG67A6VfLqvMXDF1dgpKoVJHi3Fe5xgcNvE9i5JVRXBTUyQqlaMX.EsmPX9d4vs- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <003001c8f344$1d6bf840$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <000801c8f313$38a429b0$7c7ba8c0@ACER> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:26:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 187.375khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Joe my guess is at extreme daytime range you are getting D-layer returns at this time of year. The D-layer is quite highly ionised in summer daytime, and you are way out of ground wave range at that power. LF signals usually have enough strength to survive one reflection in daytime at grazing incidence (minimum pennetration of the absorbing layer) There is a characteristic "Dome" shape to the signal plot in daytime with a peak when the sun is overhead at mid-path. Best Wishes Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:05 PM Subject: Re: LF: 187.375khz > Hi Henny, LF Group. > > The beacon was switched off at 0230 to prevent damage from > an electrical storm. It will resume operation this evening. > Thank-you for monitoring my signals, Henny and others. > Do your receptions coincide with off-times for the high > power broadcast stations? > > Local reception tests were conducted earlier this month and it was > noted that the beacon was audible at distances of 600 km in the > daytime over a water path at 47 north. At higher latitudes > (about 50-55N) Iceland on 189 kHz was quite strong and prevented > aural reception of the beacon. What I found amazing was that > this persisted even during the daytime. Shouldn't E-layer absorption > preclude transatlantic LF propagation at high noon? There must be > something else at play?! > > 73 > Joe VO1NA > > On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, henny van elst wrote: > > > hi joe, > > this time nothing seen, > > best 73s > > henny pa3cpm. >