Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13102 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2002 23:49:30 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Nov 2002 23:49:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 3852 invoked by uid 10001); 27 Nov 2002 23:49:21 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Nov 2002 23:49:21 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.10) id 18HBvG-0004xI-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2002 23:48:50 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.176] (helo=protactinium) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18HBvG-0004x9-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2002 23:48:50 +0000 Received: from host213-123-49-93.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.123.49.93] helo=main) by protactinium with smtp (Exim 3.22 #16) id 18HBvF-0002mz-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2002 23:48:49 +0000 Message-ID: <002e01c2966f$74e81be0$5d317bd5@main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 23:07:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: HBG plots Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.42 X-Spam-Level: * Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Hi All, the plots continue to provide interest although I cant find one from DEX this evening yet......blank plot so far. Laurie, we have to be careful not to read too much into them. They can give general information about the D-layer, but that path is about 1000kms south of us and a bit further east. The detail of any multipath fading will probably be very different to what we would experience. There was a difference even between you and Peter. Also remember our early plots of CFH where I saw peaks and you saw a poor period. Unfortunately we dont know how to recognise a good night yet. I think from John's report (I think it was John ) before he started posting the plots that HBG was stronger last week than maybe it is now. It will be interesting to see if the guys continue for another couple of nights whether last nights Kp=5 and a morning period at 4 have any effect. I feel the effects may not be so dramatic at 75kHz as maybe at 136, and the path may recover more quickly after a few poor nights due to storms. This could be because the wavelength is longer relative to the thickness of the absorbing medium (guess). It does seem that we need a bit of help, so maybe we ought to be looking at conditions closer after a storm, when there are still some deep dips, and maybe some higher than average peaks in between. Certainly so far the 75kHz plots look quite different to my attempts at 136. I also note that there didnt seem to be a peak at 1500z today, so the daytime signal was not making it across. The previous slight lift at 1500z may have been caused by the Kp=7 storm last week. Well done John and Dex, LF is certainly encouraging lots of experimentation, what will loops, spirals and 75k propagation.....Lotsa Fun Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com alan.melia@btinternet.com