Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id AE63538000084; Sun, 4 Sep 2011 12:12:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1R0FHy-0002Da-LT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 17:11:18 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1R0FHy-0002DQ-1z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 17:11:18 +0100 Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.24]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1R0FHw-00013m-Sg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 17:11:18 +0100 Received: from omta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id UgAT1h00217dt5G52gBBvX; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:11:11 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([76.23.233.102]) by omta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id UgBA1h01R2DDHkk3ZgBBpB; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:11:11 +0000 Message-ID: <002d01cc6b1d$42b259b0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <77DE9B8329834C6882925783A5F39A72@White> <001b01cc6af5$a8f74190$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 12:11:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Weak signal on 137780.3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0029_01CC6AFB.BB56B860" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:489392640:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d601a4e63a35b72ed X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01CC6AFB.BB56B860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Sorry for the interference. I keep forgetting that Mitch isn't exactly on 780. There is a small amount of 'wiggle room' on the DF6NM 'high sensitivity' grabber if you would like me to QSY. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: John Andrews To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 10:00 AM Subject: Re: LF: Weak signal on 137780.3 Jay, I wondered who the mystery signal was, less than 0.1 Hz below VE3OT, who was around 780.4. Could just make out the MP ID's. John, W1TAG FN43sv Sent from my iPhone On Sep 4, 2011, at 7:27 AM, wrote: Markus The mystery signal was from WD2XNS ... you have the time and frequency perfectly correct and the color DF also provides corroborating evidence. Note that there was no break in the transmission. The frequency is controlled by a GPS disciplined oscillator (accuracy about 13 ppt). Transmitter power was 200 watts ... radiated power is not known. During winter, with frozen ground, additional radials, lower R and less foliage, the radiated power would have been about 0.5 watt. Expect last night's test would be at least 3 - 6 dB (maybe more) below that level. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: Markus Vester To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 4:45 AM Subject: Re: LF: Weak signal on 137780.3 The mystery signal was received between about 0:15 and 3:30 on 137780.310, with a 3.8 mHz downward shift from about 1:30 to 2:15 - somewhat reminiscent of a DFCW "GM". Greenish colour indicates southwesterly origin. The attached screenshot was taken at 8 UT, timescale is 10 minutes per FFT. I checked the other available TA grabbers around 4 UT, but no trace of the mystery signal. 73, and have a nice sunday, Markus (DF6NM) From: Markus Vester Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 5:39 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Weak signal on 137780.3 LF, there seems to be a signal on 137780.300 Hz, about 60 nV/m here. http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm/grabber/TAnarrow.jpg Wondering whose it may be... Best wishes, Markus ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01CC6AFB.BB56B860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
John
 
Sorry for the interference. I keep = forgetting=20 that Mitch isn't exactly on 780. There is a small amount of 'wiggle = room'=20 on the DF6NM 'high sensitivity' grabber if you would like me to = QSY.=20
 
Jay W1VD  WD2XNS =20 WE2XGR/2 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 John = Andrews=20
Sent: Sunday, September 04, = 2011 10:00=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Weak signal on = 137780.3

Jay,

I wondered who the mystery signal was, less than 0.1 Hz below = VE3OT, who=20 was around 780.4. Could just make out the MP ID's. 

John, W1TAG
FN43sv

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 4, 2011, at 7:27 AM, <jrusgrove@comcast.net>=20 wrote:

Markus
 
The mystery signal was from WD2XNS = ... you have=20 the time and frequency perfectly correct and the color DF also = provides=20 corroborating evidence. Note that there was no break in the=20 transmission. The frequency is controlled by a GPS disciplined=20 oscillator (accuracy about 13 ppt). Transmitter power was 200 = watts ...=20 radiated power is not known. During winter, with frozen ground, = additional radials, lower R and less foliage, the radiated = power=20 would have been about 0.5 watt. Expect last night's test would = be at=20 least 3 - 6 dB (maybe more) below that level.
 
Jay W1VD  WD2XNS =20 WE2XGR/2
 
   
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Markus=20 Vester
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Sunday, September 04, = 2011 4:45=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Weak = signal on=20 137780.3

The mystery signal was received = between about=20 0:15 and 3:30 on 137780.310, with a 3.8 mHz downward = shift from=20 about 1:30 to 2:15 - somewhat reminiscent of a DFCW "GM". = Greenish=20 colour indicates southwesterly origin. The attached  = screenshot was=20 taken at 8 UT, timescale is 10 minutes per FFT.
 
I checked the other available TA = grabbers=20 around 4 UT, but no trace of the mystery signal.
 
73, and have a nice = sunday,
Markus = (DF6NM)   

Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 5:39 AM
Subject: LF: Weak signal on 137780.3

LF,
 
there seems to be a signal on = 137780.300 Hz,=20 about 60 nV/m here.
http://www.a= lice-dsl.net/df6nm/grabber/TAnarrow.jpg
 
Wondering whose it may = be...
 
Best wishes,
Markus
 
 
 
 
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