Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v121_r3.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD073-92b48f70ebc53; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:52:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v121_r3.13) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD103-92b48f70ebc53; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:51:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KqPVD-0002cx-OM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:50:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KqPVD-0002co-2n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:50:43 +0100 Received: from smtp800.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.60]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KqPV9-0006eV-J5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:50:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 84378 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2008 09:43:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=E9TnWHN0W/LeJMh0nCJs46iotveIAc6mKOyrgP5EDzl3sxp3uyZeXWeCx5OHdzfLF9nIlR034fIdrADNZv2b2KmPPDAeQcXiEJWhZdJT/3b6bS2puv9sx9nDU7VDMq5lU/D0Gzlvkh3QxCRyQSpRzERTReTs0/u9c7pRwU45fuY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@81.131.62.37 with login) by smtp800.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Oct 2008 09:43:40 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: K6gaOKIVM1k0bJmObXo5yzHRIXg2trr5tyqTYV0s7Hf3HNqdKZAffBUQd4bl51zSWDxIWfkhJK9h5H3i7kuOYelBI3iEIeQ6.nqHYpkPKuxdq4hDn1kwrEybf46v.d7S.VPp6L61TDH6fKqTNfpe20gd5.6bJqK8n17Z2ADwfQh..wFIKw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <002d01c92f73$b11297a0$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <008301c92f19$b701b4c0$0900a8c0@AM> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:16:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE=2.001 Subject: LF: Re: About Blacksheep Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=OFFERS_ETC autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : btinternet.com ; SPF_822_from = n Hi Lubos, thanks for that, I thought that might be the problem> the list owner hs no control over that of course it is the ISP who is activating the spam blocker. It is a defensive strategy as the list will become blocked if seen to be a source of spam. It is a bit of a blunt instrument to use but easy. Sometimes it is cause by people who are too lazy to to unsubsccribe properly and who merely mark legitimate list mails as spam to clear them. This results in the list being blocked often world-wide. So it is requested that you all unsubscbibe properly when you no longer want the messages from the Group. Thanks and Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lubos Bobo" To: Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 6:02 AM Subject: LF: About Blacksheep Hello Victor, Alan and LF! Two weeks ago I noticed the same problem. All my e-mailes was marked like "SPAM" and was not send off via Blacksheep server. I didn´t why. My question on administrator address Blacksheep was negative - the same result - "SPAM". HI Finally I got good advice from network administrator of RSGB sides: Try to use server in any other domain, for example "HOTMAIL". At first I tryed to use general czech domains, like "seznam.cz" or "atlas.cz", but no good result. So ... I created my new e-mail box on Hotmail.com and all is OK. It works perfectly! A you can see, this e-mail was not been send from my old address lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz, but from bvgbobo@hotmail.com. I think, that a new database of spamers on Blacksheep server is too strick for common users, becouse my normal address on local czech domain works without problems. I must use two e-mail addresses nowadays. One for all my e-mail communication and other special for Blacksheep only. 73 Lubos, OK2BVG *************************************************** > From: alan.melia@btinternet.com > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:16:07 +0100 > Subject: LF: Re: FW: cpm > > Hi Victor, and Henny one clue might be the "spam score" which seems a > little high. Try some very simple mesages and see if they get through. If > they do view the failed messages for word that may "irritate" the spam > filter. There are occasions where the Blacksheep ISP seems to have > blacklisted an ISP but I cannot be absolutely sure of that. Laurence had > quite some difficulty which might have been caused by the route taken by his > messages from Shanghai. > If you still cant see a solution send me another email and I will try and > flag it up, though I suspect there will be nothing the list-owner can do. > > Best Wishes > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Victor van Kooten" > To: "blacksheep" > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:20 PM > Subject: LF: FW: cpm > > > > > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > Van: Victor van Kooten [mailto:vvkooten@wanadoo.nl] > > Verzonden: woensdag 15 oktober 2008 16:35 > > Aan: blacksheep > > Onderwerp: cpm > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > Henny PA3CPM just notified me that since a week or so all hiss messages to > > blacksheep get rejected with the following message: > > > > Your message > > > > > > To: blacksheep > > > Subject: 137 > > > > > > did not reach the following recipient(s): > > > > > > rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org on Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:12:42 +0200 > > > There was a SMTP communication problem with the recipient's email > > > server. Please contact your system administrator. > > > > > spam points - rejected> > > > > > > He would very much like to know how to solve this so he can keep contact > > with all of you, > > > > > > 73 > > > > Victor > > PA3FNY > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Stáhni si 30 emotikonů pro tvůj Windows Live Messenger ZDARMA! http://www.livemessenger-emoticons.com/funfamily/cs-cz/