Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16485 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2002 00:13:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Feb 2002 00:13:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 14148 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2002 00:13:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Feb 2002 00:13:17 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16bsPZ-0003kx-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 00:09:05 +0000 Received: from tvrelay.mail.uk.easynet.net ([194.6.96.11]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16bsPY-0003ks-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 00:09:04 +0000 Received: from erica (tnt-1-68.easynet.co.uk [195.40.206.68]) by tvrelay.mail.uk.easynet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0065C67963 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 00:08:08 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <002d01c1b67e$96da2da0$44ce28c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001a01c19a31$655db6c0$466152d5@it> Subject: LF: Re: Vertical grounded tower for LF Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 00:11:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: On the original discussion on this subject Giulio IK2DED said >But which may be the best system on this tower for LF, is possible to feed directly it, may be at the top? >The tower is exatly 80 meters long, with a base of 8x8 meters, and at 70 meters is 1x1 meters, and at 80 meters >is 0.5x0.5 meters, so big antenna with big capacitance to ground, i think is a smaller version of Decca insulated >tower, but this one is grounded. There are practical difficulties in shunt feeding a grounded tower, even one as high as 80m because it is still only a fraction of a wavelength at 136kHz. I did once use an Omega match to feed a grounded mobile 14MHz whip. I also used a shunt feed on a mobile 14MHz DDRR antenna which was grounded at the feed end. Both these antennas are described in 'The Antenna Experimenter's Guide'. But as Mike, G3XDV, says, for these matching systems to work the antenna needs to be resonant. I think that a tower 80m high is best used for a support for a conventional long wire antenna with a base loading coil. Make the sloping wire as long as possible. Additional top capacity can be achieved using two wires. A boom can be used to support the end wire insulators . Make the boom as long as practibe to reduce the end capacity coupling to the grounded mast. Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web