Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24631 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2001 14:49:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by extortion.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Jan 2001 14:49:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 11510 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2001 14:51:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 31 Jan 2001 14:51:52 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14NyUX-0004p7-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:44:13 +0000 Received: from gadolinium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.111]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14NyUW-0004p0-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:44:12 +0000 Received: from [213.1.145.153] (helo=default) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.03 #83) id 14NyUE-0005yW-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:43:54 +0000 Message-ID: <002d01c08b94$23e980e0$e0f27ad5@default> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Subject: LF: Noise and the dual line on 137790 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:41:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi again Mike, before I got stuck into doing proper logging I monitored CFH on a waterfall every night since January 2000. The dive in noise occurs earlier in summer (about 0300 or soon after) and later in winter. I appreciate that this does not rule out a station going to a daytime power regime, as that would change with daylight too....presumably. However what is noticable in summer is that a lot of this noise is like distant lightning crashes. They sound more like 'crunches', but provided the outlook is clear of storms in the UK and to the west, the noise drops significantly about one hour or so before dawn. Observations would suggest the main source maybe a hour east of the shadow edge at that time. I too have been surprised by the way the dual line fades out ....yes it does fade out because I have seen a weak return about 30 to 45 minutes later for about 15 mins before it goes completely. I assumed it was a trans-atlantic source, but have not bothered to try to locate it further. I see the same pattern as you and Dave. The asymmetry on opposite sides of the Atlantic is "my hypothesis", not any proven fact, but it does seem to fit the observations quite well. Now one for the lower power stations, and the hand morse stations, the improved level of ionisation in the D-layer should lead to enhanced shorter range working signals, of the order of 700 to 1500kms, even in daytime, because this is how we are receiving CFH in daytime. I would be interested in any reports of new stations worked during the next few days. Cheers de Alan G3NYK Alan.Melia@btinternet.com