Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12648 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2001 22:33:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2001 22:33:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 1314 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2001 22:32:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 4 Jun 2001 22:32:37 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 1572oo-0002Mr-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2001 23:27:26 +0100 Received: from smtp.snet.net ([204.60.6.55]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 1572om-0002Mm-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2001 23:27:25 +0100 Received: from pop.snet.net (pop.snet.net [204.60.6.9]) by smtp.snet.net (8.11.1/8.11.1/SNET-mx-1.4/D-1.10/O-1.7) with ESMTP id f54MQhD17697 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:26:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mainc (198.212.252.64.snet.net [64.252.212.198]) by pop.snet.net (8.11.1/8.11.1/SNET-pop-1.5/D-1.8/O-1.6) with SMTP id f54MQg512817 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:26:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002b01c0ed47$afad3940$0100a8c0@mshome.net> From: "Paul A. Cianciolo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Subject: Re: LF: Re: "Ground" losses Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:42:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: John, This post was in anticipation of getting the band stateside.. I agree.. for receive I would use multiturn loops or a Flag antenna. So I was wonder how well something like this would work for Xmit Paulc W1VLF Cloudbounce Webpage http://www.qsl.net/w1vlf/ Rescue Electronic Surplus http://www.rescueelectronics.com 1982 Vanagon Diesel Turbo Diesel 1.9 GE Electrak E20 and E15 electric tractors First place in local tractor pulls at 1750 LBS With Stock E-20 Electric tractor Air Rifle Target Shooting Enthusiast ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 17:13 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: "Ground" losses > In a message dated 6/4/01 4:26:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, paulc@snet.net > writes: > > << I have a location on my property where I could run a flat top antenna > of perhaps 70 to 80 feet high with a top hat made of parallel wires at least > 200 feet long. > > I have a tower on my property that is 130' high and could attache to that > with the proper insulator if I did not mind the tophat sloping from 130' to > around 80 feet. > > Trees would be about 75 feet away in any direction ... > > Your thought? >> > > Seeing that we presently have no legal provision stateside for transmitting > into antennas of those dimensions, I have to assume you are speaking of > receiving. Ground system losses are less of a factor for receiving, > depending on the type of input your receiver has or what sort of antenna > tuner you are using with it. Proximity to trees is not ideal even for > receiving at LF, but 75 feet or so should be acceptable. Receiving loops > would be still better, though. > > John KD4IDY > > >