Return-Path: Received: (qmail 68909 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2004 18:34:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Dec 2004 18:34:30 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1Ck5VJ-000L1i-CC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:58:34 +0000 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1Ck5VJ-000L1f-9J for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:58:33 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1Ck580-000LfM-Pj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:34:28 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ck57k-0003MA-TE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:34:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ck57k-0003M1-DO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:34:12 +0000 Received: from mail-public.northwestel.net ([198.235.201.66] helo=yk-pvtmailprd-01.internal.messaging) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1Ck57f-0003zH-JC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:34:12 +0000 Received: from yk-asavprd-02.northwestel.net ([172.19.112.41]) by yk-pvtmailprd-01.internal.messaging (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 Patch 1 (built Jan 28 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I9J00JUVSWUOOZ2@yk-pvtmailprd-01.internal.messaging> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 11:34:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by yk-asavprd-02.northwestel.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBUIY680000643 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 11:34:06 -0700 Received: from yk-asavprd-02.northwestel.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (yk-asavprd-02 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 31717-13-5 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 11:34:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from eagles (whthyt032-92.northwestel.net [205.234.32.92]) by yk-asavprd-02.northwestel.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id iBUIWoTZ032756 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 11:32:51 -0700 Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:32:46 +0000 From: "J. Allen" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: <002a01c4ee9d$f57ea390$6501a8c0@eagles> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at northwestel.net References: <1d8.3390f377.2f04f91b@aol.com> <002001c4ee52$9e477a70$6501a8c0@eagles> <001a01c4ee6f$175d7d80$28540150@captbrian> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 198.235.201.66 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of northwestel.net X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Power Line Rotation, & Auroral effects de VY1JA Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Good afternoon, Bryan, and All. The problem with being one of they or them "what speaks", is that in doing so the mouth is opened, increasing the chances of foot-in-mouth disease. In answer to your question, I will attempt to explain the power line rotation as I have seen all across North America and yet line rotation is not something which I was able to locate via Google. It would have been nice to simply put a link on the LF reflector to a site which explains this better than I. The description is a little over-simplified, but here goes.... The power lines are very real transmission lines as we in radio come to know them, both at 50/60 Hz and at the other frequencies, such as PLC which they carry. The line which passes by the front of my home goes part of the way north toward Dawson, and then runs east to Faro, about a 250 mile length. The line develops voltage peaks and nulls to the different frequencies placed on it just like an RF feeder can from rig to antenna. Large reactors are required to cancel the effects of line length. If one set of lines is always on the outside of the transmission line or is always nearer the earth below the line, it causes effects such as increased capacitance to ground and imballance of the line currents and voltages in long lines. A line which is always in the center is impacted by fields from two wires, but the outside lines of a flat transmission line are impacted by the fields from mainly the one adjacent to it. For these and other reasons, it is necessary to rotate the lines. Power line rotation takes a number of structures to accomplish. How the lines are rotated depends on the normal line configuration. For this discussion the grounding/grounded conductor is ignored. Here are three of the more common configurations: 1. All lines on a single line parallel to the earth. XYZ 2. Lines in a triangle with two in line vertically. X Y Z 3. A single line at the top with two lines on a crossarm below. X Y Z In Yukon, the 138,000 Volt three-phase lines are arranged in a flat line parallel with the earth, and then in triangles with one line elevated, using both 1 and 2 configurations above, so starting with the flat line configuration 1 above: XYZ The left line is elevated at the first structure of the rotation, and we are now in configuration 2 above; X Z Y At the next structure is a reverse of configuration 2, the lower two lines shift left while the top line stays high and shifts right. X Y Z At the final structure, the elevated right line drops to the same level as the other two lines and we are back to configuration 1. YZX This is one rotation for a flat configuration of lines, and after a relatively short distance at power line frequencies, the rotation is done again in the same direction. At each structure of rotation, the lines are commonly labeled ABC, XYZ, 123, or color coded Yellow, Red, and Blue. One can look at those structures where the markings are located to see that the placement of the conductors has changed from time to time...but always maintaining the phase rotation sequence. XYZ, then YZX then ZXY. As you travel along the highway on your next trip, with someone else at the wheel, watch the high-tension lines for transitions similar to the one described here. Now that you know what to look for, transitions should be easy to spot, regardless of the line configuration. I hope this was clear enough.... And I agree... "they" in one country may not take any notice of the work of those in another country, especially considering current politics. Being an optimist here has its advantage... As Darby O'Gill said, "The only person who is happy altogether is the villige itiot.", and in my optomistic ignorance I do try to be happy.. :o) It is interesting to watch http://sec.noaa.gov/pmap/pmapN.html and the propagation changing together these days. The shape of the Auroral halo is a bit flattened on the map in such a way that the NA east coast to EU west coast path is not impeded by the Auroral cloud. Parts of Alaska are out from under the halo and are able to communicate with major areas of the world, while we in Yukon, only a few hundred miles away, are blocked from even communicating with sections of NA south of us. I hope that things turn around soon, so that I can send you captures of your signals into Yukon. J. VY1JA CP20kw