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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Stefan, >>>Do they cause a mismatch of the antenna? I have not noticed any mismatch but during normal operation I would not know whether they are there or not. [...] Content analysis details: (-2.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [212.74.100.55 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (g4wgt[at]tiscali.co.uk) -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -2.4 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 070d9ab39265047b7fb462cd62854f10 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Slightly OT - Birds (the feathered kind) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A2_01CE33C6.4B191800" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1da6065161bb7461dc X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01CE33C6.4B191800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stefan, >>>Do they cause a mismatch of the antenna? I have not noticed any mismatch but during normal operation I would not = know whether they are there or not. >>>Would be interesting to see what happens when the TX starts while = some are sitting on it.=20 Now this I have done with 300watts :-)) but it appears that the birds = do not feel anything as the do not even twitch or fly away. 73, Gary - G4WGT. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 3:07 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Slightly OT - Birds (the feathered kind) Hi Gary,=20 That's funny :-) Do they cause a mismatch of the antenna? I've never seen any birds sitting on my antenna, somehow ;-) Would be = interesting to see what happens when the TX starts while some are = sitting on it. The automatic variometer would indicate L- for a short = time to find the resonance peak i guess ;-) 73, Stefan Am 05.04.2013 19:27, schrieb Gary - G4WGT:=20 Hi All, Just a final on this OT...... Have a look at the photo from this evening about 6:15 pm local time, = this is more like the number of starlings which regularly perch on my = antenna :- https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15990181/Birds%20on%20Ant.JPG 73, Gary - G4WGT. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: LF Group ; rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 9:42 PM Subject: Slightly OT - Birds (the feathered kind) Hi All, I am being bothered by lots of starlings perching on my HF/MF top = load capacity hat & messing on everthing that happens to be below in my = small garden, ie. the washing & windows etc, which really annoys my = wife. Does anyone use any form of bird deterant with any success ? I have heard of model Falcons perched on the antenna but does it = really work ? 73, Gary - G4WGT. ------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01CE33C6.4B191800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Stefan,
 
>>>Do they = cause a mismatch=20 of the antenna?

I have not noticed any mismatch = but during=20 normal operation I would not know whether they are there or=20 not.
 
>>>Would be = interesting to=20 see what happens when the TX starts while some are sitting on it.=20
 
Now this I have done with 300watts  :-)) = but it=20 appears that the birds do not feel anything as the do not even twitch or = fly=20 away.
 
73, Gary - G4WGT.
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Stefan = Sch=E4fer
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 = 3:07=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Slightly = OT - Birds=20 (the feathered kind)

Hi Gary,

That's funny :-) Do they cause a = mismatch of=20 the antenna?

I've never seen any birds sitting on my antenna, = somehow=20 ;-) Would be interesting to see what happens when the TX starts while = some are=20 sitting on it. The automatic variometer would indicate L- for a short = time to=20 find the resonance peak i guess ;-)

73, Stefan

Am = 05.04.2013=20 19:27, schrieb Gary - G4WGT:=20
Hi All,
 
Just a final on this = OT......
 
Have a look at the photo from this = evening=20 about 6:15 pm local time, this is more like the number of starlings = which=20 regularly perch on my antenna :-
 
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15990181/Birds%20on%20A= nt.JPG
 
73, Gary - G4WGT.
 
-----=20 Original Message ----- From:=20 Gary - G4WGT To:=20 LF=20 Group ; rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk = Sent:=20 Tuesday, April 02, 2013 9:42 PM Subject:=20 Slightly OT - Birds (the feathered kind)

Hi All,
 
I am being bothered by lots of = starlings=20 perching on my HF/MF top load capacity hat & messing on = everthing that=20 happens to be below in my small garden, ie. the washing = &=20 windows etc, which really annoys my wife.
 
Does anyone use any form of = bird=20 deterant with any success ?
 
I have heard of model=20 Falcons  perched on = the antenna=20 but does it really work ?
 
73, Gary - G4WGT.
 
=
 
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