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Minto,

as to DCF77:
my radio controlled Citizen wrist watch receives DCF77 extremely reliably
every night with its built in ~2cm ferrite rod antenna.
Even presently here at the Cote d'Azur field strength is indicated as "high"
(the watch indicates three grades:high,medium,low).
I find this amazing.

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Minto Witteveen
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 9:43 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: 137 grabbers


  I haven’t thought about ferrite RX antenna for LF….My guess is that it is not going to work – 
not without an external antenna coupled to the ferrite, and then what’s the point?
  DCF77 clocks often have trouble locking indoors or in the neighborhood of ‘QRM’ generators 
like PC’s, and look what power DCF77 is using…
  I could be entirely wrong of course…

  73’ Minto pa3bca


  From: Stefan Schäfer
  Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 20:03
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: Re: LF: Re: 137 grabbers

  <snip>
  BTW what do you think about a ferrite RX antenna for LF? Now i'm opening an older discussion i 
expect ;-)

  73, Stefan/DK7FC




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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Minto,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I find this amazing.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ</FONT></DIV>
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