Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mb12.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mb12.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.32]) by air-mc06.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINMC062-a9744bae4d4d2f6; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:24:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mb12.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 64C72380000A4; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:24:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Nvaf6-0003cA-Qv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:23:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Nvaf6-0003c1-Db for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:23:08 +0000 Received: from smtp815.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Nvaf4-0006U9-9d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:23:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 37459 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2010 18:23:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=3hYOwBEzwoP/PFti2t3Z2EUj5f5xzt9Mo7dlOCdzyJ7k2dwgfG3IGk465kHRRXHRdK2agH9LjEtmIvZRW//TLR1OFmsVVIuxrXX+ackyGodg229FANU+HUwX50bTEUNiHg0MVLtDhHYKKity7Nejj4rg/AaFmKbz1fb8bNF9Zi8= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1269714180; bh=v88dtQokrpGQ1n/vMhSajIz2x0+qxMLt7eozJJuZDDA=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=53GJiqz9ay+b1OAv08kLTrAQ0t1ZJ7VNuQZS8bPLSVdGmWb9c1y3EwD4FNpC2ns7pZqBL/sWnIH77+0pVBDqqrXIrdNvdi89mOGkpl1waK2O7MlI8m45FP+du5xG/xCtrnp/VrCGLrpD54wGXz6XDENA3VR3/3rs9TuhpRqc17A= Received: from lark (alan.melia@213.122.13.109 with login) by smtp815.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Mar 2010 18:22:59 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: fpz.2VeswBBs59bVshRPmMN51lcO2lgFRIvE4XTqE8dRwOxd70E- X-YMail-OSG: w.bgBcwVM1lxHwkL.6kV0HLYO1s5sNsBD.icePKoXaJ7EZVJgmVGpdxVpjsB86Ve7zqJWUwbJ4v5ucrVDajbVNs8Hc6N6mqw.aETWdnvJGbi7zrBdEhEIDgwhexkrPk_Q2a6qm3OV8TsAmJ_1qBB41Pgk2DzLy..Mx6HAIDDPZ3Igo0FXbbP7BkDpIWSaC99tDta._VKlC.wsYURAL3ShDiNDBzQnF.4kKi.k9uK5tx5zxJMswHffT.UpJbWQ8XTqc857XXEMgFoZpV5wrEThxIyWDmiHyem X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <002901cacdda$8e6b1ef0$0901a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <4BAE3FC1.1891.1E1536B@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:20:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1983 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1983 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Problems joining group Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m216.2 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60204bae4d4c41b3 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Ah Mike I think this may be majordomo rejecting it or BT-Yahoo seeing the response as "bulk" and adding it to the spam folder ?? Check to see if messages are actually being received by looking in the webmail spam or bulk folder. Else.... It could be you are not tripping the subscription command . The usual reason for this is having "Send in HTML" on. The extra text totally confuses the parser. So.... 1. Make sure you are sending in text only. 2. Send a message to majordomo@blacksheep.org the subject can be blank On the first line, in the first column (no leading spaces or tabs) type subscribe rsgb_lf_group end The "end" is the 2nd line of the mesage and the reason for that is that these days many ISPs add advertising tails to messages particularly if in HTML but sometimes in text as well. This throws the command parser off course. If it doesnt know what to do with the message it just junks it with no reply. I spend 3 months trying to subscribe back in 2000, but didnt know who to ask. .....also from a btinternet address :-)). Best wishes Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 5:49 PM Subject: Re: LF: Problems joining group > Yahoo handle BT Internet email - that why you see the Y reference. > > The spam classification is not a Yahoo thing, I get all messages correctly > from the LF group so the address is know to the Y provider as 'OK'. Go > into the Spam folder, open up the message and click the "Not Spam" button. > This ought to reclassify the message and let future ones through. > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > > On 27 March 2010 17:26, Mike Dennison wrote: > > > I have been asked to help someone who has been trying to join this > > group but without success. He says he has tried several times but: > > "Yahoo rejects it as 4.7 spam". He appears to have a btinternet email > > address which confuses me if the error message comes from Yahoo. > > > > Has anyone any experience of this error message? Is there an easy > > fix? > > > > Mike, G3XDV > > ========== > > > > >