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Content preview: Hello Marco, i do not have a special authorization,for us in holland the band is free below 9 Khz, henny pa3cpm best 73's ----- Original Message ----- From: Marco Cadeddu To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 8:36 PM Subject: Re: LF: Beacon to the west [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [213.75.39.6 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: b266e01efe570cc7cc73d9fd75b218c3 Subject: Re: LF: Beacon to the west Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01CE45EF.C276A9E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4081518025ed1b09 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CE45EF.C276A9E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Marco, i do not have a special authorization,for us in holland the band is free = below 9 Khz, henny pa3cpm best 73's ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Marco Cadeddu=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 8:36 PM Subject: Re: LF: Beacon to the west LF, let me add my congrats, specially to Spiros! Unfortunately the bad weather which delays reparation to my LF antenna = doesn't allow me to join in the challenge...when the weather improves = the season will be probably gone so will try to be ready for next = season! At this time the MF TX is almost ready and waiting for an antenna..it = is still raining so spend this holiday day refurbishing the LF TX wth = some small improvement.. I'm also intrigued for a trial on 9 kHz..but is not clear how is the = legal stand here: officially, according the national frequency = assignation, frequencies below 9 kHz should be free for short range = applications and I should simply notify the communication authority and = inform them about what I'm intended to do, but as you probably know, in = Italy is not so easy and there is a not written law which states "only = officially allowed task are permitted" the general "if not forbidden is = free" rule could be a risk unless you like to spend time in the court! Henny, how is by you? Did you get a special authorization? Enjoy MF, LF VLF! 73 Marco, IK1HSS ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Markus Vester=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 8:30 PM Subject: Re: LF: Beacon to the west Well done, congratulations to the four of you! I would absolutely = agree with Stefan that the traces from Joe and Spiros in America are = beyond doubt, and they also perfectly line up with local Eu captures. = Note that Spiros is quite a bit further than us here, and the ground = reflection after his first hop is on land. Thanks Stefan for mentioning mine among the "strong stations", but I = have to say that I am not even hoping to come near that attribute. = Actually in my opinion, the "warming of the ionosphere" by your powerful = and consistent beacon signal is quite valuable for us weak ones:=20 - it's a very useful indication of propagation versus noise level on = the other side. By the thickness of Stefan's dogbones, we know when we = might become barely visible ;-), - it provides a perfect time and frequency frame to which we can = reference lonely bright pixels and partial traces, - it is an incentive for potential remote receivers to run their = spectrograms and grabbers, - and last not least, being shown what can be done is a motivation = for us to learn and improve our modest setups. So let me say thanks to all involved, for keeping this hard but = wonderful band so much alive. Best 73,=20 Markus (DF6NM) From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:44 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Beacon to the west John Jay, Joe, Spiros, LF,=20 Jay, John, thanks for capturing our signals from EU. And congrats to DF2JP for beeing received at W1VD, not bad for = almost May! Looks like Joe counts to the strongest LF stns here in DL, = apart from DF6NM and me. About the traces of SV8CS at W1TAG, i find the traces are quite = clear. And i would vote for calling this an official detection of SV8CS = in the US. Distance is 7491 km, = http://no.nonsense.ee/qthmap/?qth=3DFN42CH&from=3Dkm07js, very = impressing! So my congrats to Spiros!=20 What do others think about this detection? Looks like it was a successful night on LF :-) 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 29.04.2013 13:14, schrieb John Andrews:=20 Spiros,=20 I received an interesting signal last night. If you compare the = screen shots at G4WGT:=20 http://www.w1tag.com/files/G4WGT-SV8CS.jpg=20 to the screen shot at WTAG:=20 http://www.w1tag.com/files/W1TAG-SV8CS.jpg=20 you will note a correlation in frequency and in part of the "8" = and part of the "C" in your callsign.=20 This does NOT prove reception, but suggests that the signal may = have been there. Conditions were fairly quiet here last night, and the = Dst has recovered to reasonable levels.=20 John, W1TAG=20 FN42ch=20 On 4/29/2013 1:15 AM, SV8CS- Spiros Chimarios wrote:=20 My signal captured by G4WGT grabber (QRB 2512Km).=20 73, Spiros=20 SV8CS=20 No virus found in this incoming message.=20 Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/5778 - Release Date: = 04/27/13 18:36:00=20 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3162/6284 - Release Date: = 04/29/13 ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CE45EF.C276A9E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Marco,
i do not have a special = authorization,for us in=20 holland the band is free below 9 Khz,
henny pa3cpm
best 73's
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Marco=20 Cadeddu
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 = 8:36=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Beacon to the = west

LF,
 
let me add my congrats, specially to=20 Spiros!
Unfortunately the bad weather which = delays=20 reparation to my LF antenna doesn't allow me to join in the = challenge...when=20 the weather improves the season will be probably gone so will try to = be ready=20 for next season!
At this time the MF TX is almost = ready and=20 waiting for an antenna..it is still raining so spend this holiday day=20 refurbishing the LF TX wth some small improvement..
I'm also intrigued for a trial on 9 = kHz..but is=20 not clear how is the legal stand here: officially, according the = national=20 frequency assignation, frequencies below 9 kHz should be free for = short range=20 applications and I should simply notify the communication authority = and inform=20 them about what I'm intended to do, but as you probably know, in Italy = is not=20 so easy and there is a not written law which states "only officially = allowed=20 task are permitted" the general "if not forbidden is free" rule could = be a=20 risk unless you like to spend time in the court!
Henny, how is by you? Did you get a = special=20 authorization?
 
Enjoy MF, LF VLF!
 
73 Marco, IK1HSS
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Markus=20 Vester
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 = 8:30=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Beacon to = the=20 west

Well done, congratulations to the = four of you!=20 I would absolutely agree with Stefan that the traces from Joe and=20 Spiros in America are beyond doubt, and they also perfectly = line up=20 with local Eu captures. Note that=20 Spiros is quite a bit further than us here, and the ground = reflection after=20 his first hop is on land.
 
Thanks Stefan = for mentioning mine=20 among the "strong stations", but I have to say that I am not even = hoping to=20 come near that attribute. Actually in my opinion, the "warming = of the=20 ionosphere" by your powerful and consistent beacon = signal=20 is quite valuable for us weak ones:
- it's a very = useful indication of=20 propagation versus noise level on the other side. By the = thickness=20 of Stefan's dogbones, we know when we might = become=20 barely visible ;-),
- it provides a perfect time = and=20 frequency frame to which we can reference lonely bright = pixels=20 and partial traces,
- it is an incentive for potential = remote=20 receivers to run their spectrograms and grabbers,
- and last not least, being shown what can be done is a = motivation for us to learn and improve our modest = setups.
So let me say = thanks to all=20 involved, for keeping this hard but wonderful band so much=20 alive.
 
Best 73, =
Markus = (DF6NM)
 
From: Stefan = Sch=E4fer=20
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Beacon to the west

John Jay, Joe, Spiros, LF,

Jay, John, thanks = for=20 capturing our signals from EU.

And congrats to DF2JP for = beeing=20 received at W1VD, not bad for almost May! Looks like Joe counts to = the=20 strongest LF stns here in DL, apart from DF6NM and me.

About = the=20 traces of SV8CS at W1TAG, i find the traces are quite clear. And i = would=20 vote for calling this an official detection of SV8CS in the US. = Distance is=20 7491 km, htt= p://no.nonsense.ee/qthmap/?qth=3DFN42CH&from=3Dkm07js,=20 very impressing!
So my congrats to Spiros!
What do others = think about=20 this detection?

Looks like it was a successful night on LF=20 :-)

73, Stefan/DK7FC



Am 29.04.2013 13:14, = schrieb John=20 Andrews:=20
Spiros,=20

I received an interesting signal last night. If you = compare the=20 screen shots at G4WGT:

http://www.w1tag.com/= files/G4WGT-SV8CS.jpg=20

to the screen shot at WTAG:

http://www.w1tag.com/= files/W1TAG-SV8CS.jpg=20

you will note a correlation in frequency and in part of = the "8"=20 and part of the "C" in your callsign.

This does NOT prove=20 reception, but suggests that the signal may have been there. = Conditions=20 were fairly quiet here last night, and the Dst has recovered to = reasonable=20 levels.

John, W1TAG
FN42ch

On 4/29/2013 1:15 = AM,=20 SV8CS- Spiros Chimarios wrote:

My signal captured by G4WGT grabber = (QRB=20 2512Km).
73, Spiros
SV8CS




No virus = found in=20 this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/5778 - Release = Date:=20 04/27/13 18:36:00 =

No virus found in this=20 message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2013.0.2904 / = Virus=20 Database: 3162/6284 - Release Date: = 04/29/13

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