X-GM-THRID: 1235628528240081437 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.1 with SMTP id u1cs116931hue; Sat, 5 May 2007 10:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.28.9 with SMTP id f9mr3657321ugj.1178387193044; Sat, 05 May 2007 10:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 53si7840376ugn.2007.05.05.10.46.30; Sat, 05 May 2007 10:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1HkOIe-0000iZ-SE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 18:44:04 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1HkOIe-0000iQ-B4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 18:44:04 +0100 Received: from smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.70]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HkOId-0008Gn-IZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 18:44:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 82718 invoked from network); 5 May 2007 17:43:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=4jaMtDgmWYS2NIZCmHIqSjlW4my2whmzYx67VY3/3Cb/8gPcdqOIa6nJ4ow95rCITcozrnqM2EnFzDno2u+FyACrNTyidltR7GOi1JPOfc90nUZ4TxTmqFJHRVESODla7h2ez7dFUGW1M7gsgN6w2zID3uf4zNksJNs5VlhntYQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.12.8 with login) by smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 May 2007 17:43:57 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: fwJa1nQVM1kP15SEqFel1bM5sdqqqmoi5pfIhXjlWWSafdpLCUvNji2js4mD.2nuoKCd0w40xQ-- Message-ID: <002801c78f3c$f995c3e0$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <405452.30291.qm@web86408.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 18:43:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Field Strength Meter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2329 Hi Chris Dick usually monitors the group but I am sure he would not mind me passing his emal address to you. I am sure he will be keen to help you adapt his instrument to 500kHz E-mail Address(es): dickrollema@casema.nl Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: CHRISTOPHER OSBORN To: LF group Sent: 05 May 2007 18:29 Subject: LF: Field Strength Meter > Has anyone built the field strength meter from the 'LF Experimenter's Handbook' (p 83) ? > I intend to make a similar one but for the 500 kHz band, however a couple of things in the artical are confusing me: > (1) > The formula (3) for a Helmholtz coil pair gives H = I / (1.40 * r ) > where I is the coils' current in Amperes and r the coils' radii in metres. > Looking on the internet the Helmholtz formula also includes the permeablility of free space - 4 * PI * 10 ^ -7 !! so is there a misprint ? > (2) > The artical gives the required magnetic field to equate to an electric field strength of 5 mV / m as being 13.3 uA / m > I follow the working for this ok but if the Helmholtz coils are being fed from a signal generator with a series 50 ohms resistor surely the output voltage setting would be impracticably low - about 540 uV ( I think ) > > I can make the Helmholtz coils as per the artical (i.e. with radii of 0.292 m) so what signal generator setting would I need to generate the required field strength of 13.3 uA / m and how would I achieve this ? > Any lessons learned by members of LF Group while making this meter would be much appreciated. > > 73 Chris G3XIZ > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your freeaccount today.