Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8160 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2001 09:55:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Jun 2001 09:55:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 7105 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2001 09:54:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 28 Jun 2001 09:54:14 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15FYOG-0004qB-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:47:12 +0100 Received: from tungsten.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.81]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15FYO4-0004q4-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:47:01 +0100 Received: from [213.123.14.5] (helo=dave) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #9) id 15FYNO-0000Tr-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:46:19 +0100 Message-ID: <002801c0ffb7$53bf06e0$050e7bd5@dave> From: "Dave Sergeant" To: "rsgb_lf_group" References: <005d01c0fe76$e6a457e0$ad2c1bd4@rci> <3B397DCB.F87B6FD3@alg.demon.co.uk> <000601c0feee$ef663ba0$0100a8c0@home> <3B3A3EAC.EFB6008C@alg.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: LF: freq: monitor ?? Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:38:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: >From Dave G3YMC Steve GW4ALG wrote: >it is true that QRP might result in disappointment - although >this probably depends upon expectations. However, my first tests >on 136 kHz were actually conducted using quite low power. (I >completed my first 136 kHz CW QSO with Graham G3XTZ over a >distance of 157 km using 15 watts RF. At the time, I was using a >very poor single-turn loop antenna: tuned by very lossy >capacitors; and fed by a very lossy balun. But it was a start. >For me, QRO and better antennas came later.) I would endorse Steve's comments. Obviously those who run several hundred watts into a big antenna make a bigger impression on the band. Others like me have shown that it is still possible to have much pleasure on the band with much lower powers and modest antennas. I have worked very much further than across town with my 35W and a loop, and nobody should be put off getting on the band because they cannot afford or do not have access to QRO resources. May be a bit different in the remote parts of France though. I am currently invesigating a vertical antenna at my impossible qth, however at the moment it seems to be an evaluation exercise as to how 'impossible' the qth is!! 73s Dave G3YMC dsergeant@iee.org dsergeant@btinternet.com http://www.dsergeant.btinternet.co.uk