Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dg02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 757D638000089; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:44:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Rdnbf-00052G-WE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:43:07 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Rdnbf-000527-4x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:43:07 +0000 Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.16]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Rdnbd-00020l-KW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:43:07 +0000 Received: from omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.98]) by qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CGau1i00B27AodY51Jizib; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:42:59 +0000 Received: from DELL4 ([71.234.119.9]) by omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CJiy1i01V0CFS1j3fJiz4J; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:42:59 +0000 Message-ID: <002701ccc0d9$867f55f0$6d01a8c0@DELL4> From: To: References: <4EF3689B.1030902@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:42:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: Automatic Variometer adjustment at DK7FC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-15"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:471096128:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d410a4ef37a726d43 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Stefan Good new on the variometer ... guess this means you're one step closer to 0 dBfs! Another 3 - 6 dB and I'll need welding goggles to safetly view the signal. Looking forward to receiving your signal in CW mode. Congratulations on your continued improvements Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ---- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Schäfer" To: Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 12:27 PM Subject: LF: Automatic Variometer adjustment at DK7FC > LF, > > I'm totally thrilled. > Yesterday in the night i designed a circuit to automatically resonate my LF TX system by tuning > the variometer. This allows to exactly hold the phase and hold the antenna in resonance in > changing sourrounding conditions, like upcoming rain. But the most useful feature is: It > automatically adjusts the variometer if i do QSY (remote operation!),e.g. if i go from 137.7 to > 136.172 it re-adjusts the system in less than 5 seconds! > > A small drive engine is used to turn the small coil into the main LF loading coil, see: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/LF_variometer_drive_engine_arrangement.jpg > The drive engine works from 3...24V DC and takes 0.15A. It is steered automatically by the circuit > described below. > > The basic phase measurement circuit is taken from the M0BMU tuning meter which one can find > somewhere in the web and here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/LFtunemeter.pdf BTW this tuning > meter is THE most useful device for antenna measurements at all, in my opinion. The phase meter > can directly drive an analog meter showing if there is a positive or negative or no phase > (=resonance) between voltage and current. I took a very nostalgic and high quality analog meter to > nicely display the phase, see http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/phase_meter.jpg. The circuit > works very nice and accurate. Resonance showing and the maximum of the antenna current exactly > coincides. The circuit need no external power supply. > > The automatic motor drive circuit is here: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/DK7FC%20Automatic_variometer_tuner%20.jpg > It uses a quad OP amp, TL084. The first stage low pass filters and amplifies the input voltage > (taken from the analog phase meter, i.e. switched in parallel), which has a DC part and a 137 kHz > ripple. Another OP amp generates the ground level which is in the middle of the 12 supply voltage > (e.g. a battery or usual power supply). Then there are 2 comparators and a ICL7667 MOSFET driver. > The 7667 works in a H bridge configuration and inverse switches the outputs. The outputs can be > opposite in both directions, turning the engine CW or CCW or they can have equal potential to stop > the engine. 2 BAT42 shottky diodes are used to generate a +- 0.3V threshold voltage to prevent > self oscillation arround the resonance point. The sensitivity of this circuit and the phase > threshold (hysterisis) can be aligned by adjusting the gain of the input OP amp stage. The 7667 > provides a low impedance output switching and easy circuit design (no discrete push pull stages or > so). A resistor is put in series to the engine to reduce its speed a bit. Also a 0.1A poly switch > type fuse is put in series. This fuse is under-dimensioned for the engine but will work for a few > seconds before it interrupts. This a some fail save protection in case the circuit may be damaged > by what ever and wants to turn the engine endless. Two anti parallel switched LEDs indicate a > running engine and its direction. They will be labeled with L+ and L- later on the PA front panel. > > As a test i was transmitting a key down carrier at 137.7 kHz and activated the circuit. A short > impulse, indicated by one LED, set the variometer EXACTLY to resonance. Then i QSYed to 137.0 kHz > without interrupting the TX. Since the frequency is lower, the L is to low. Thus the circuit acts > resistive-capacitive and the phase angle is negative. L must be increased. The phase meter first > jumped into the negative half of the meter but it took about 2 seconds until it came quickly back > to zero where it stopped immediately. > I took the SpecLab frequency generator for that test (have an IQ mixer that adds 125 kHz to the > soundcard output, so i have to generate 12 kHz to come out at 137 kHz). Then i added the FM > modulator within the signal generator and choosed a frequency deviation of 300 Hz and a period > time of 20 seconds. This is how that transmission looks on the DF6NM grabber: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/137kHz_%2B_FM0.3kHz.jpg > Without the automatic tuner beeing active the phase meter moves like a windscreen wiper of course. > When the circuit is active the needle of the meter does very fine twitch but does not leave the > resonance significantly at all! :-) > The experts know how the LED blinking pattern must look: Faster blinking on one side, then slower, > then the other LED starts to blink slow, then faster, slower again and so on :-)) > > There are still no mechanical switches in series to the engine supply, which would be another fail > save circuit, to be added later, hopefully ;-) > > This may be one way for other LF transmitting stations to increase the comfort of running their TX > system by automatically adjusting their system to resonance, even when QSYing by > 1 kHz :-) > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > PS: A photo of the board is here: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/automatic_variometer_board.jpg > PPS: Caution: This is not NEW and there are other circuits with similar functionality > existing!!!!! > > >