X-GM-THRID: 1241352783323229053 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.10 with SMTP id u10cs617792hue; Sun, 8 Jul 2007 10:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.3 with SMTP id k3mr6268434buc.1183916715059; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 10:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id g17si3218937nfd.2007.07.08.10.45.10; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 10:45:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1I7alO-0006jV-LU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 18:41:38 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1I7alN-0006jM-Q3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 18:41:37 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.91]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I7alM-0000hS-Q6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 18:41:37 +0100 Received: from dyn-62-56-76-4.dslaccess.co.uk ([62.56.76.4] helo=Tom) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtpa (AUTH telemetry) (Exim 4.42) id 1I7alL-000Ddr-CH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 17:41:36 +0000 Message-ID: <002701c7c187$44e43260$044c383e@Tom> From: "Tom Boucher" To: References: Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 18:41:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: [500] 502 kHz test from G3JFS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0024_01C7C18F.A5FAA720" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1022 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C7C18F.A5FAA720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks from me also Dave.=20 It's a strange band with lots of stations obviously unable to hear each = other! As yet, I have done no work on antennas for 500Kc/s and am just = using a rather nondescript piece of wire, which I use as a general = purpose back-up antenna. It slopes up from the shack to a tree and is = around 140' long. Having said that, I do have a recording of my 160 = metre signals as received by ZL3IX last year, when I was using the same = piece of wire, so it can't be that bad! Look forward to working you on 500. 73 Tom G3OLB ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ColePe@aol.com=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 5:49 PM Subject: Re: LF: [500] 502 kHz test from G3JFS Hi Dave, Thanks for your e-mail. Its nice to get a report, even a local one, = as I have put out so many tests and calls in recent weeks without any = reponse that I am beginning to think 500 kHz is rather a waste of time = from Plymouth. When considering the very few stations I have heard at = workable strength, and more so on the ones that I can't hear or even = detect on spectran, I am convinced that Dartmoor and the hilly ground = around my qth have a very serious effect on 500 kHz propagation.=20 So far Tom and Laurie are the only stations I have worked and the = loudest signals I have heard have been from GI4DPE after dark and GW4HXO = in daylight. The path to both of these stations is relatively clear as = it passes along the Tamar valley and over the less rugged terrain of = western Dartmoor. G3OLB is relatively local, maybe 40 miles in a = straight line, and is readable in day time although weak at times. I was = quite surprised when G3AQC called me after my contact with Tom as it was = in the afternoon and he was a good 559. The route to Chichester, about = 150 miles, is mostly along the coast and this gives an idea of the = possibilies over a good path. G3VTT was active at the same time as = G3AQC but I could not find a trace of his signal on spectran.=20 Your rx is ok Dave - I have 8 crystals covering frequencies from = 501.34 - 503.86 kHz.=20 Look forward to getting a report from your home qth one day. 73 Peter, G3JFS In a message dated 07/07/2007 22:08:02 Greenwich Standard Time, = ganymede444@btopenworld.com writes: Hi, Peter, Tom, Laurie, Colin, LF, I've just got back from a few days holiday in Dartmouth, Devon (235 = unread e-mails from the LF reflector when I got home today...). I heard = your QSO with Tom, G3OLB, and then your QSO with Laurie G3AQC. You were 579 = on a 1.8m tuned loop, Tom was 539 and Laurie was 559. I have also subsequently heard you in beacon mode several times. The = RX set-up at the holiday QTH is really crummy, but I seemed the hear = you on a different frequency nearer to 503.0 kHz on one occasion at 2210 = hours local on the 4th July. Do you actually have more than one TX frequency, or = is my "Driftomatic" RX telling me fibs? The only other confirmed station I heard was Colin G3VTT calling CQ = on 4th July at 2210hrs local at RST 539. I think I heard Jim M0BMU's = callsign during the evening of 3rd July around 2245 hours local, but I only = heard it once. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave = Sergeant Sent: 30 June 2007 16:56 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: 502 kHz test from G3JFS ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C7C18F.A5FAA720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks from me also Dave.
 
It's a strange band with lots of stations obviously unable to hear = each=20 other! As yet, I have done no work on antennas for 500Kc/s and am = just=20 using a rather nondescript piece of wire, which I use as a general = purpose=20 back-up antenna. It slopes up from the shack to a tree and is = around 140'=20 long. Having said that, I do have a recording of my 160 metre signals as = received by ZL3IX last year, when I was using the same piece of wire, so = it=20 can't be that bad!
 
Look forward to working you on 500.
 
73
Tom G3OLB
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ColePe@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 = 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: LF: [500] 502 kHz = test from=20 G3JFS <OLB, AQC and VTT also>

Hi Dave,
 
Thanks for your e-mail.  Its nice to get a report, even a = local one,=20 as I have put out so many tests and calls in recent weeks without any=20 reponse that I am beginning to think 500 kHz is rather a waste of = time=20 from Plymouth.  When considering the very few stations I have = heard at=20 workable strength, and more so on the ones that I can't hear or even = detect on=20 spectran, I am convinced that Dartmoor and the hilly ground around my = qth have=20 a very serious effect on 500 kHz propagation.
So far Tom and Laurie are the only stations I have = worked and=20 the loudest signals I have heard have been from GI4DPE after dark and = GW4HXO=20 in daylight.  The path to both of these stations is relatively = clear as=20 it passes along the Tamar valley and over the less rugged terrain = of=20 western Dartmoor.  G3OLB is relatively local, maybe 40 miles in a = straight line, and is readable in day time although weak at = times. I=20 was quite surprised when G3AQC called me after my contact with Tom as = it was=20 in the afternoon and he was a good 559.  The route to Chichester, = about=20 150 miles, is mostly along the coast and this gives an idea of = the=20 possibilies over a good path.  G3VTT was active at the same = time as=20 G3AQC but I could not find a trace of his signal on spectran.
 
Your rx is ok Dave - I have 8 crystals covering frequencies = from=20 501.34 - 503.86 kHz.
 
Look forward to getting a report from your home qth one = day.
 
73 Peter, G3JFS
 
 
In a message dated 07/07/2007 22:08:02 Greenwich Standard Time,=20 ganymede444@btopenworld.com writes:
Hi,=20 Peter, Tom, Laurie, Colin, LF,

I've just got back from a few = days=20 holiday in Dartmouth, Devon (235 unread
e-mails from the LF = reflector=20 when I got home today...). I heard your QSO
with Tom, G3OLB, and = then=20 your QSO with Laurie G3AQC. You were 579 on a 1.8m
tuned loop, = Tom was=20 539 and Laurie was 559.

I have also subsequently heard you in = beacon=20 mode several times. The RX
set-up at the holiday QTH is really = crummy,=20 but I seemed the hear you on a
different frequency nearer to = 503.0 kHz on=20 one occasion at 2210 hours local
on the 4th July. Do you actually = have=20 more than one TX frequency, or is my
"Driftomatic" RX telling me=20 fibs?

The only other confirmed station I heard was Colin = G3VTT=20 calling CQ on 4th
July at 2210hrs local at RST 539. I think I = heard Jim=20 M0BMU's callsign
during the evening of 3rd July around 2245 hours = local,=20 but I only heard it
once.

73, Dave G3WCB=20 IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 = owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org]On=20 Behalf Of Dave Sergeant
Sent: 30 June 2007 16:56
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 502 kHz test = from=20 G3JFS

 
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