Return-Path: <majordom@post.thorcom.com> Received: (qmail 17406 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2000 19:24:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 18 Dec 2000 19:24:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 28023 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2000 19:27:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 18 Dec 2000 19:27:10 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 1485qU-0004Zx-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:21:14 +0000 Received: from cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk ([195.92.195.173]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 1485qS-0004Zs-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:21:12 +0000 Received: from modem-116.dernhelm.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.154.116] helo=lvm) by cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 1485qK-00077b-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:21:05 +0000 Message-ID: <002701c06928$217ca8c0$3d1d893e@lvm> From: "LAWRENCE MAYHEAD" <LAURIE@g3aqc.freeserve.co.uk> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: Guard Circuit Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:23:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: <majordom@post.thorcom.com> Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" http-equiv=Content-Type><?color><?param 0100,0100,0100> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.2014.210" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>Yes please Jim, I am considering an 800W amp so this guard circuit could be very useful. 73s Laurie </FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From: </B>James Moritz <<A href="mailto:j.r.moritz@herts.ac.uk">j.r.moritz@herts.ac.uk</A>><BR><B>To: </B><A href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> <<A href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>><BR><B>Date: </B>18 December 2000 14:53<BR><B>Subject: </B>LF: Guard Circuit<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>Dear Andy, LF Group,<BR><BR>Aha... wondered why you hadn't mentioned it before - unfortunately, the guard circuit is not shown in the simplified diagram in the LF handbook.<BR><BR>What it is - the tank coil has a link winding on it. This feeds the 'AC' side of a bridge rectifier made up of 4 fast diodes, via a series leakage inductance tuning capacitor. the 'DC' side is connected to some big plastic film reservoir capacitors, and then across the PA supply rail. In fig 3.20 in the handbook, it is assembled on the 3 heatsinks largely concealed by the tank capacitor boards. I think it works like this:<BR><BR>W<?/color>hen the tank circuit current (determined by the load <BR>impedance) exceeds a certain ratio with the supply voltage, the <BR>voltage across the link winding forward biases the guard circuit <BR>diodes, and returns power to the DC supply. This effectively <BR>clamps the voltage across the tank circuit, and due to the <BR>impedance transforming properties of the LC circuit, appears to the <BR>PA as a non-linear resistance in series with the load which increases rapidly when the output current exceeds a certain point. If you monitor the 'guard', PA input, and supply currents as the load is decreased, the guard and PA currents increase, but the difference between them (ie. the supply current) decreases. With a dead short on the output, the PA current is increased by about 50%, eg, after the unit was re-tuned:<BR><BR>With 50ohm load, 60V supply -<BR>Total PA supply current for 3 PA's = 21.8A = PSU supply current<BR>Total guard current = 0.1A<BR><BR>With short circuit load -<BR>Total PA current = 34.9A<BR>Total guard current = 28.3A<BR>Supply current from PSU = 6.5A<BR><BR>With the full supply voltage and a short circuit load, the PA modules run quite a bit warmer than normal, but not dangerously so, so this is an impressively rugged design!<BR><BR>I can send you a photocopy of the full diagrams if you like - also the details of how I tuned it up for a different frequency and load impedance, if anyone's interested.<BR><BR>Cheers, Jim Moritz<BR>73 de M0BMU<?color><?param 0100,0100,0100><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>