X-GM-THRID: 1207981765539854618 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: cbc5a9ff0b85c7f28ceb1237d42fee3cb728249a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.17 with SMTP id w17cs119863qbh; Wed, 5 Jul 2006 01:34:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.189.20 with SMTP id r20mr4951969qbp; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 01:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q17si3129719qbq.2006.07.05.01.34.45; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 01:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fy2jy-0000i5-9V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 09:28:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fy2jx-0000hw-LS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 09:28:09 +0100 Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.139]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fy2jr-0007hy-BG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 09:28:09 +0100 Received: (qmail 34218 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2006 08:26:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.94.46?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.94.46 with login) by smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2006 08:26:52 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.394 [268.9.9/382]); Wed, 05 Jul 2006 09:24:18 +0100 Message-ID: <002501c6a00c$68dcf280$2e5e7ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <001101c69f68$fa306a90$6501a8c0@eagles> <001801c69f70$bef1a9a0$0300a8c0@lark> <000901c69f77$db074850$6501a8c0@eagles> <002b01c69f7e$701bbec0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <004701c69ff7$2298b710$6501a8c0@eagles> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 09:24:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.741,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376 Subject: LF: Re: Antenna Tuning Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5102 Dear JA, LF Group Using your variometer's winding data, and Claudio's calculator, the adjustment range comes out to 2.8 - 6.6mH. This seemed very large, but calculating the two coils as isolated solenoids and adding their inductance gives the correct "mid-range" inductance, so it is definitely a realistic estimate. So the first problem is that the variometer is just too big! The obvious solution would be to reduce the number of turns by a factor of about 2 - but before getting this drastic , I calculate that since: outer coil = 3.38mH inner coil = 1.33mH mutual inductance (added to both coils) = +/-0.95mH Connecting outer and inner coils in parallel instead of in series will give an inductance range of 0.32 - 1.49mH, which would be good. I am not quite sure if this is correct, so will have to check. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: J. Allen To: Jay Rusgrove ; Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 6:52 AM Subject: LF: Antenna Tuning > Jay, Scott, Steve and All, > > Thanks for the note. > > The Variometer is built with two coils in both the stationary and rotory > windings. > Each of these have a one inch space between the coils to allow for the > rotating shaft. > > The stationary coils are wound on a 10-3/4 inch former at 19 or 20 TPI > closewound > with about #16 solid electric motor wire. The two coils are each 3-1/8 inch > long. > The bottom coil has a number of taps. > > The rotary coil is 7-1/2 inches long and 6 inches in diameter close wound > with the > same wire. Subtracting 1 inch gives 6-1/2 inches and makes the two coils > total > 3-1/4 inches length each. This is as close as I could match the inner coils > to the > outer ones. > > If someone knows how to estimate how much inductance range this variometer > is likely to have I would appreciate knowing. > > I have built a ScopeMatch which works well with the dual trace scope which > Scott, VE7TIL, leant me. > >