Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9381 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2002 13:41:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Feb 2002 13:41:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 25439 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2002 13:41:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Feb 2002 13:41:04 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16ad79-0000ZX-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 13:36:55 +0000 Received: from rhenium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.93]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16ad78-0000ZS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 13:36:54 +0000 Received: from host213-1-65-101.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.1.65.101] helo=dave) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #8) id 16ad6J-0007l1-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 13:36:04 +0000 Message-ID: <002501c1b3ca$46625660$654101d5@dave> From: "Dave Sergeant" To: "rsgb_lf_group" References: <3.0.1.16.20020212094812.2d07f0e6@pb623250.kuleuven.be> Subject: Re: LF: Loop questions Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 13:35:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: >From Dave G3YMC ON7YD wrote: >The result is that in most cases (and for dimensions that are >practical for hams) the efficiency of a short vertical will be a lot better >than from a loop with similar dimensions. Only those who suffer from >extreme environemental losses might be better off with a loop. There is always the exception to this rule. I have recently done extensive tests with a vertical against my loop (see http://www.dsergeant.btinternet.co.uk/vertical.htm. In my case performance of a vertical is in most cases inferior to the loop. A transmitting loop is a very viable antenna for many amateurs, but it must be done properly - no 1m square things with thin wire. The thing which has slowed down its use is this sort of negative reaction. Someone with more real estate could construct a loop working far better than the one I have - same policy as with verticals, make it big, make it of thick wire etc. I shall probably take down my vertical shortly and restore it to an hf Butternut, it certainly doesn't work at this QTH and the current level of activity on the band hardly justifies it. 73s Dave G3YMC dsergeant@iee.org dsergeant@btinternet.com http://www.dsergeant.btinternet.co.uk