Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8954 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 07:34:56 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 07:34:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 1882 invoked by uid 10001); 8 Jul 2003 07:34:55 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 07:34:55 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Zmzi-0005Qi-N5 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:34:34 +0100 Received: from [194.25.134.82] (helo=mailout05.sul.t-online.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Zmze-0005QZ-Eq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:34:30 +0100 Received: from fwd04.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19Zmzd-0002Gq-00; Tue, 08 Jul 2003 09:34:29 +0200 Received: from oben (bjvk2kZHrevv7tyHlxqM2O-G8K8tZOXsWM9NIbg8DhVAs+gigzsOcC@[80.128.218.69]) by fwd04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19ZmzM-1WuLZI0; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:34:12 +0200 Message-ID: <002201c34524$0b6407b0$ee9bfea9@oben> From: "dj9dw" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030707113252.025bf530@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:39:20 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Seen: false X-ID: bjvk2kZHrevv7tyHlxqM2O-G8K8tZOXsWM9NIbg8DhVAs+gigzsOcC@t-dialin.net Subject: Re: LF: Field strength calcs. X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hello James, thanks for your enlighting explainations on fs-calc via loop. Now I know how to and give my new toy, SNA-1 analyzer, its first serious task measuring my neighbour in Mainflingen. vy 73, Peter, dj9dw. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 1:14 PM Subject: Re: LF: Field strength calcs. > At 17:26 06/07/2003 +0100, you wrote: > >When making the signal strength measurements using a loop antenna should > >this be resonated or aperiodic? > > > >I made measurements under both conditions but the results are puzzling - > >even allowing for my peripatetic decimal point! > > Dear Ian, LF Group, > > The voltage induced in a loop is: > > V = 2.1x10^-8 (fNAE) > > where f = frequency (Hz) > N = number of turns > A = area (m^2) > E = field strength (V/m) > > Always assuming that the antennas are far enough apart for the loop to be > in the "far field" (>1 - 2km seems to be enough) > > From the circuit point of view, the loop behaves as a voltage source of > the value given by the formula, in series with the inductance and > resistance of the loop winding. If a high impedance load is connected to > the loop terminals, the measured voltage will be more or less that given by > the formula. If the load impedance is relatively low, the output voltage > will be reduced by the potential divider action of the loop > inductance/resistance and the load resistance. For single-turn loops less > than a few metres in diameter, the inductive reactance is only a few ohms, > so even a 50ohm load on the loop will have little effect on the signal > voltage - this is one reason single-turn loops are popular for > measurements; few variables affect the measurement. A multi-turn loop with > higher inductance can be series-tuned; the reactance of the loop is > cancelled by the capacitor reactance, eliminating this loading effect. A > parallel-tuned loop could be used with a high impedance load - in this > case, the voltage will be stepped up by a factor equal to the loaded Q of > the loop - but since this depends on a number of variables, it introduces > greater uncertainty into the measurements. > > If you turn the formula round, you get E by measuring the signal voltage: > > E = V/(2.1x10^-8 x fNA) > > Then ERP (relative to a dipole) is: > > Perp = (Ed)^2 /50 (d is distance in metres, E is fs in V/m, Perp in watts) > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > >