Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mc03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 54DE938000082; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:49:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RbCbb-0008S3-IW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:48:19 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RbCbb-0008Ru-1D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:48:19 +0000 Received: from out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.245]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RbCbX-00007F-Tr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:48:19 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvEAAMQH6k5cF/aI/2dsb2JhbABEgk2YGw+QOoEGgWsBAQUBAQUIAQEDSQIsAQEDBQIBAxEEAQEKJRQBBBoGFggGEwoBAgIBAYU3gjQGuDCMBASCWYUohHwpAZI8hz4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,357,1320624000"; d="scan'208,217";a="500127135" Received: from host-92-23-246-136.as13285.net (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.23.246.136]) by out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 15 Dec 2011 14:48:09 +0000 Message-ID: <002101ccbb38$8f638b10$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: ,<000f01ccbb29$4e9fa3c0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:48:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: DK7FC/Mal Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01CCBB38.8F2597B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:468108032:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d604b4eea08f21ce2 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01CCBB38.8F2597B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Laurence We seem to be on the same course.=20 I have only ever managed to work/QSO KL7, VE7, W6 etc an hour or two = leading up to my sunrise but I have worked ZL both pre sunset and pre = sunrise from here, maybe I was not there on the day that pre sunset was = optimum for KL7 and that general area. Generally I work as far West as W9/W5 during my late evening early = morning time and then as time progresses towards pre sunrise I hear/QSO = the extreme West towards the Pacific coast areas. This has been over the years on 160 metres and there are similarities = with 500 khz and to some extent 137 Khz This procedure has worked for me when hunting DX 73 De Mal/g3kev, cold at present around 2 degs C, frosty but no snow = around Scarborough ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Laurence KL7UK=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 2:08 PM Subject: LF: DK7FC/Mal Yes Mal I agree - thanks - its a lot further to VE7 (!) and a = slightly more Southerly path maxing appx 73N as against the KL7 Route = reaches 85N (HGA22 is very close to going straight over the pole) - but = Scott/Steve maybe would/could have more disruptive time within the = Northern American Auroral Zone on the the Gt/Circle/Rhum path as the = KL7/ Eu Path, as his and my paths to Eu has to traverse and cross the = Auroral Oval twice; but with Scotts TIL/Steve 7SL tenacity and excellent = engineering/antennae, and a lot of luck from Space it may prevail. =20 I wouldnt discount a pre dawn Alaska/VE7, Eu Dusk early night opening = too - Ive been receiving HGA22 just a few dBs down for a very short = period. This Ak morning time hasnt opened up to Eu for our ERP levels = but never say never.=20 =20 All previous 137 KL7 to Eu have been predawn Eu from memory, and to = show you how rare an event this is, its been nearly 10 years since I = received a signal from Europe and my first full callsign. Signals on = this path have only worked during the deepest and darkest part of winter = to date. =20 Laurence KL7UK in remote 5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Laurance It looks good for a VE7 QSO from EU/UK The optimum condx should be around end of this month and January. This = has been the case in the past also applies to 500 es 1800 Khz. Early = morning before UK sunrise best time for KL7, W6, W7, VE7 and into the = pacific area as far as ZL Must Fire up If I wake up in time!! 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Hi Laurence
We seem to be on the same course. =
I have only ever managed to work/QSO = KL7, VE7, W6=20 etc an hour or two leading up to my sunrise but I have worked ZL both = pre sunset=20 and pre sunrise from here, maybe I was not there on the day that pre = sunset was=20 optimum for KL7 and that general area.
Generally I work as far West as = W9/W5 during=20 my late evening early morning time and then as time progresses=20 towards pre sunrise I hear/QSO the extreme West towards the Pacific = coast=20 areas.
This has been over the years on 160 = metres and=20 there are similarities with 500 khz and to some extent 137 = Khz
This procedure has worked for me when = hunting=20 DX
73 De Mal/g3kev, cold at present around = 2 degs C,=20 frosty but no snow around Scarborough
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Laurence KL7UK =
Sent: Thursday, December 15, = 2011 2:08=20 PM
Subject: LF: DK7FC/Mal

Yes Mal  I agree - thanks -  its a lot = further to VE7=20 (!) and a slightly more Southerly path maxing appx 73N as against the = KL7=20 Route reaches 85N (HGA22 is very close to going straight over the = pole) - but=20 Scott/Steve  maybe would/could have more disruptive  time = within the=20 Northern American Auroral Zone on the  the = Gt/Circle/Rhum =20 path as the KL7/ Eu Path, as his and my paths to Eu has to = traverse and=20 cross the Auroral Oval twice; but with Scotts TIL/Steve = 7SL tenacity and=20 excellent engineering/antennae, and a lot of luck from Space it may=20 prevail.
 
I wouldnt discount a pre dawn Alaska/VE7, = Eu Dusk=20 early night opening too - Ive been receiving HGA22 just a few = dBs down=20 for a very short period. This Ak morning time hasnt opened up to = Eu for=20 our ERP levels but never say never.
 
All previous 137 KL7 = to Eu=20 have been predawn Eu from memory, and to show you how rare an = event this=20 is, its been nearly 10 years since I received a signal from Europe and = my=20 first full callsign. Signals on this path have only worked during the = deepest=20 and darkest part of winter to date.
 
Laurence = KL7UK in remote=20 5

Laurance
It looks good for a VE7 QSO from=20 EU/UK
The optimum condx should be around = end of this=20 month and January. This has been the case in the past also applies to = 500 es=20 1800 Khz. Early morning before UK sunrise best time for KL7, W6, W7, = VE7 and=20 into the pacific area as far as ZL
Must Fire up If I wake up in = time!!
 
De mal/g3kev
 
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