Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5211 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2002 09:44:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by exhibition.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Feb 2002 09:44:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 623 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2002 09:44:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Feb 2002 09:44:38 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16aZPV-0008Ok-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 09:39:37 +0000 Received: from gadolinium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.111]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16aZPT-0008OY-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 09:39:35 +0000 Received: from host213-1-65-133.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.1.65.133] helo=dave) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #8) id 16aZOe-0003ir-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 09:38:44 +0000 Message-ID: <002101c1b3a9$20325920$854101d5@dave> From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <120.b40e402.299996b0@aol.com> Subject: Re: LF: Loop questions Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:56:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: >From Dave G3YMC Clearly the use of large transmitting loops is outside the terms of the lowfer licence in the US. However use of a receive type loop with many turns of thinish wire (litz or not) for transmitting is not the way to go. To get a signal in the air requires a large single (or at most two) turn loop with thick wire. I have used this technique to some success on 136 as many of you will know, and my website details my experiences. The aim is the same as with any transmit antenna - to get the resistive losses as low as possible related to the radiation resistance. For this I use 30A speaker cable and the resistance of my 33m circumference single turn loop is 0.65 ohms. Loop current has been measured as 8A at 35W, they are not high impedance devices! And matching to the feeder must be at the feedpoint to eliminate resistive losses in the feeder which will be very significant. See my site for more details. 73s Dave G3YMC dsergeant@iee.org dsergeant@btinternet.com http://www.dsergeant.btinternet.co.uk