Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mb09.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mb09.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.29]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINDA074-86674b99815337f; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:48:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mb09.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 0AEE4380000FC; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:48:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Nps6H-0002Rz-Jg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:47:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Nps6H-0002Rq-6z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:47:33 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Nps6F-0007np-6l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:47:33 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnQIAMIPmUtOkz8v/2dsb2JhbACHVZMPc7xBhHsE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,623,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="442680996" Received: from unknown (HELO your91hoehfy9g) ([78.147.63.47]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2010 23:47:24 +0000 Message-ID: <002001cac175$33623910$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000a01cac139$b9d5e5a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <9D7C2F9B306347BEA848AC1560D1162B@JimPC> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:47:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: DREAM 9 ANTENNA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d601d4b9981516a29 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim & Co This is a band that really requires a large TX antenna to be realistic about covering a few hundred miles otherwise all the work could be in vain with no one to communicate with. No point having several stations active that only radiate a few miles when in fact they are all hundreds of miles apart. When I fired up on 73 most had moved to 137 at the time but I put in a few appearances on CW. All the action was on 137 CW and I worked over 30 countries at the last count. I cannot say I have heard you much over the years, just once in a while. I suggested 50 ohms for my own convenience, equipment availability etc but it could be anything. g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:34 PM Subject: LF: Re: DREAM 9 ANTENNA > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > G3KEV wrote: > ... Base load the antenna with the necessary inductance for resonance and if > necessary add another small inductor in series to ground and adjust with > taps up from ground to get a 1 : 1 match with the coax feed from the TX, > readjust the main inductor to maintain resonance if necessary. > This system has never failed me on 73, 137 and 500 kcs and this would be my > approach on 9 kcs. > ... > > - However it would fail at 9kHz, or on any other band, if the total loss > resistance of the antenna and main loading coil is >50ohms. This is often > the case with smaller antennas than those at G3KEV, especially at lower > frequencies. At 9kHz, it seems to be quite hard to make the loading coil > resistance by itself as low as 50 ohms. If the total loss resistance IS > greater than 50ohms, then a different configuration of matching network is > required. > > BTW, Mal, I don't ever remember hearing you on 73kHz... > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > > >