Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC064-b2148a41cb229e; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:53:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC055-b2148a41cb229e; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:53:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTbO0-0003Wa-54 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:53:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTbNz-0003WR-FN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:52:59 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTbNv-0002xG-O8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:52:59 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAKO5o0hOkJa6/2dsb2JhbACEPasZA4ZUXgMCcg Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.150.186]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 14 Aug 2008 12:52:48 +0100 Message-ID: <002001c8fe04$46e07aa0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <003e01c8fd71$918b0cc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><8CACBA4268B3E87-238-DA7@FWM-M40.sysops.aol.com><001501c8fde4$d85a0c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080814131657.1qufg045oa680o4o@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:52:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.030 Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n A amateur radio licence is primarily to Transmit radio signals. You do NOT need a licence to build equipment or experiment.. You only need a licence to transmit if your equipment, home built or otherwise radiates on frequencies specified on the license. All licenses commercial or otherwise are to permit the user/operator to transmit on designated frequencies. Appliance operators are not likely to build or experiment. Apart from your activity in the past on LF/MF cw, I have not heard any of the others that are offering advice here on the reflector !!!!!!! This seems strange to me. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" To: Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:16 PM Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz An amateur radio license is much more than just a transmitting license. In most cases it permits the holder to experiment, build his own equipment etc ... This in contradiction to most other transmitting licenses such as CB, PMR446 and even (most) "commercial" maritime and aeronautical licenses. 73, Rik ON7YD Quoting mal hamilton : > I always thought an amateur radio licence was a transmitting licence, > otherwise why bother, no licence is required to receive. > G3KEV > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:39 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz > > > > I'm sorry Mal, but just when did it become a given that experimentation > required one to radiate a signal? My licence permits me to do many > things but nowhere do I read an instruction to "transmit". Or perhaps > you believe that I should only have an "old fashioned" artificial > aerial permit? > I'm getting rather fed up with this dialogue which hardly even > qualifies as sensible debate. > > 73 de Pat g4gvw > QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK > > Thought for today: > > What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one > day! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mal hamilton > To: rsgb > Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22 > Subject: LF: Activity 500 Khz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Theere seems to be a lot of opinions and > rheotric here on the reflector about LF and MF but I have never heard > these stations actually transmitting on the bands, so I would guess > they > are not in a position to express an opinion. > > > Surely I am not the only one capable of building > and operating a CW station in the UK/EU on 136 and 500 khz. > > > G3KEV > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL Email goes Mobile! 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