X-GM-THRID: 1205561870070040191 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 84935a4343e07eab20ea8fe8ad03f19a485527e5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.17 with SMTP id z17cs13543wrc; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 12:13:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.208.18 with SMTP id f18mr2647931nfg; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 12:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o45si3558533nfa.2006.06.09.12.13.37; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 12:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FomNd-0004aa-KG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 20:10:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FomNd-0004aR-5L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 20:10:49 +0100 Received: from smtp16.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.7]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FomNZ-0000ud-Gy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 20:10:49 +0100 Received: from ACER (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by smtp16.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with SMTP id <0J0L00IVCX9PM4@smtp16.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 21:10:39 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 21:10:39 +0200 From: henny van elst To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: <002001c68bf8$65adff50$aa7ba8c0@ACER> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <44872911.4081.200439F@localhost> <004f01c68a73$5a700240$0300a8c0@lark> <010101c68be6$da546220$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.193,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.492 Subject: LF: Re: BBC 198kHz Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6991 i look for it and make a foto, 73 henny pa3cpm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Martinez" To: Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 7:05 PM Subject: LF: BBC 198kHz > From G3PLX; > > Alan G3NYK gave some idea of how stable Droitwich 198kHz might be. I had > the chance to leave my GPS-locked system monitoring it over most of a day. > The results may be of interest. > > During the daytime, the maximum phase excursion I saw was 10 degrees peak > to peak. The largest change seen over the 5-minute sample interval was 4 > degrees, corresponding to a worst-case apparent frequency error of 37uHz. > > At night there was evidence of skywave, which showed as three cycles of > phase-change extending over 30 degrees peak-to-peak between 21:45z and > 01:30z. The largest change seen over 5 minutes was 22 degrees, > corresponding to a frequency error of 200uHz. A quick calculation from > this says the skywave was about 12dB down on the groundwave at it's > strongest in the middle of the night. The worst disturbance was in the > middle of the night, not at sunrise or sunset. > > I am 230km from Droitwich. > > 73 > Peter > >