Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10777 invoked from network); 25 May 2001 21:28:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 25 May 2001 21:28:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 13222 invoked from network); 25 May 2001 21:27:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 25 May 2001 21:27:50 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 153P3A-00065z-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 May 2001 22:23:12 +0100 Received: from antiochus-fe0.ultra.net ([146.115.8.188]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 153P38-00065u-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 May 2001 22:23:11 +0100 Received: from comrex (207-172-216-124.s632.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.216.124]) by antiochus-fe0.ultra.net (8.8.8/ult/n20340/mtc.v2) with SMTP id RAA07104; Fri, 25 May 2001 17:22:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002001c0e561$69fc3a60$09dc9384@ma.ultranet.com> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: kayser@sympatico.ca References: <003201c0e3dc$ea7f5ea0$c7727ad5@default> <013501c0e514$fb099630$0a00a8c0@ThreeLakes.ca> <000901c0e53f$9a640380$0a00a8c0@ThreeLakes.ca> Subject: LF: Re: CME with a "Glancing pass near Earth"? Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 17:26:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Larry, > First, thanks for looking at this. I have a strong interest in figuring out > how to tell if a CME from the Sun is going to come within about 7.5 Million > miles of the earth. A second level of information needed is to understand > the energy level of the particles that are going by us at a given time. > A really great end game for this inquiry would be to understand how to look > at a CME event and to quickly determine if the CME will come within about > 7.5 Million miles of the earth. My limited understanding of this subject is that we currently have a two-dimensional view of what is obviously a three-dimensional process. With this limitation, it is difficult to predict the arrival time or severity of the effects from a CME. If an ejection occurs from the Sun's limb, it is unlikely to be earth-directed, of course. But predictions of CME's from the rest of the visible side of the Sun appear to be vague, until they arrive at satellites in near earth orbit. I remember seeing a TV special that described plans for locating satellites at the Lagrange points, thus providing 3-d viewing. John Andrews, W1TAG