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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Joe Thanks for the news. That's a cold place to be without electricity to run heating systems. Hope they have backup. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe DF2JP To: Sunday, December 30, 2012 12:55 PM Subject: AW: LF: This night to Venezuela!! 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That's a cold place to be without electricity to run heating systems. Hope they have backup. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe DF2JP To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 12:55 PM Subject: AW: LF: This night to Venezuela!! Hi Jay, Stefan, LF I saw in the news that there was a strong snowstorm yesterday on Iceland and they have a electric blackout. Season greatings Joe DF2JP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von jrusgrove@comcast.net Gesendet: Sonntag, 30. Dezember 2012 16:40 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: This night to Venezuela!! Stefan Do you have contact with TF3HZ? His grabber has been 'stuck' since yesterday morning. Was hoping it would come alive last night as I had left traces there a few days earlier. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: Stefan Schäfer To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; YV7MAE Maritn A. Echazarreta D. Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 10:31 AM Subject: Re: LF: This night to Venezuela!! Hi Markus, Martin, Jay, Dex, Joe(VO1NA), LF ;-) Yes, it is amazing! I just take a look into the archive and found these images very impressing: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/1hi4j5gh7fqne2p/Yv4rniVU3K#/ The are signals of WD2XNS (35 dB SNR in 22 mHz, i.e. no problem for QRSS-3!) VE3OT (MP) WD2XKO and VO1NA and in the EU Band DF6NM DK7FC Markus, congratulations to that 7995 km distance! I would confirm that the traces are yours. But maybe someone of the other grabber runners can confirm that the NM appeared during my C-D. Maybe TF3HZ or YO/4X1RF or G4WGT saves the images?? This is the 2nd EU-SA one-way reception and it has to be mentioned that you're below 1 W ERP. So it is not impossible for other stations to make that distance, especially the UK stations could have a certain advantage over JN49/59. I think we can say we have learned that the path from EU to the north of SA is best in winther (not in spring or fall) :-) Local QRN in Venezuela due to the summer period in the southern hemisphere does not over-compensate the good propagation in the northern hemisphere to that time. Well, who is the next one? :-) Again, congratulations to all involved! 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 30.12.2012 04:37, schrieb Markus Vester: Stefan, indeed! Now at 3:20, Martin's grabber has excellent copy from XNS, WD2XKO, NA and DK7FC (with Jay being well visible in the wideband plot). And I think I am also seeing very faint traces of an NM, exactly 0.5 Hz above Stefan's ..C D.. at 1:44 to 1:49. Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: Stefan Schäfer Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 12:59 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: This night to Venezuela!! LF! This is your chance! This night appears to be VERY quiet on the Venezuela grabber, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/74746618/LF/YV7MAE_LF_Grabber.html DCF-39 is as strong as never seen there in this year, reaching > 30 dB in 1 Hz!!!! I will switch to DFCW-90 on 136.172 kHz very soon. Will someone join in? A pity if not. Where are the active UK stations? This would be a real chance to leave first traces from UK to SA! 73, GL, Stefan/DK7FC ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CDE694.D22DD620 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Joe
 
Thanks for the news. That's a cold = place to be=20 without electricity to run heating systems. Hope they have=20 backup.
 
Jay W1VD  WD2XNS =20 WE2XGR/2 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Joe DF2JP =
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 = 12:55=20 PM
Subject: AW: LF: This night to=20 Venezuela!!

Hi Jay, = Stefan,=20 LF

 

I saw in = the news=20 that there was a strong snowstorm yesterday on Iceland and they have a = electric blackout.

 

Season=20 greatings

 

Joe

DF2JP

 

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von jrusgrove@comcast.net
Gesendet: Sonntag, 30. Dezember = 2012=20 16:40
An:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: Re: LF: This night to=20 Venezuela!!

 

Stefan

 

Do you have contact with = TF3HZ?=20 His grabber has been 'stuck' since yesterday morning. Was hoping it = would come=20 alive last night as I had left traces there a few days=20 earlier.

 

Jay W1VD  = WD2XNS =20 WE2XGR/2

----- Original Message = -----=20

From: Stefan = Sch=E4fer=20

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20 ; YV7MAE Maritn A.=20 Echazarreta D.

Sent: Sunday,=20 December 30, 2012 10:31 AM

Subject: Re: LF:=20 This night to Venezuela!!

 

Hi Markus, Martin, Jay, Dex, Joe(VO1NA), = LF=20 ;-)

Yes, it is amazing!
I just take a look into the = archive and=20 found these images very impressing:
https://= www.dropbox.com/sh/1hi4j5gh7fqne2p/Yv4rniVU3K#/

The=20 are signals of

WD2XNS  (35 dB SNR in 22 mHz, i.e. no = problem for=20 QRSS-3!)
VE3OT (MP)
WD2XKO and
VO1NA

and in the EU = Band=20

DF6NM
DK7FC

Markus, congratulations to that 7995 = km=20 distance! I would confirm that the traces are yours. But maybe = someone of=20 the other grabber runners can confirm that the NM appeared during my = C-D.=20 Maybe TF3HZ or YO/4X1RF or G4WGT saves the images??
This is the = 2nd EU-SA=20 one-way reception and it has to be mentioned that you're below 1 W = ERP. So=20 it is not impossible for other stations to make that = distance,=20 especially the UK stations could have a certain advantage over=20 JN49/59.

I think we can say we have learned that the path = from EU to=20 the north of SA is best in winther (not in spring or fall) :-) Local = QRN in=20 Venezuela due to the summer period in the southern hemisphere does = not=20 over-compensate the good propagation in the northern hemisphere to = that=20 time.

Well, who is the next one? :-)  Again, = congratulations to=20 all involved!

73, Stefan/DK7FC




Am = 30.12.2012=20 04:37, schrieb Markus Vester:

Stefan,

 

indeed! Now at 3:20, = Martin's=20 grabber has excellent copy from XNS, WD2XKO, NA and DK7FC = (with=20 Jay being well visible in the wideband plot). And I think I am = also=20 seeing very faint traces of an NM, exactly 0.5 Hz above = Stefan's ..C=20 D.. at 1:44 to 1:49.

 

Best=20 73,

Markus=20 (DF6NM)

 

From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20

Sent:=20 Sunday, December 30, 2012 12:59 = AM

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20

Subject: LF:=20 This night to = Venezuela!!

 

LF!

This is your=20 chance! This night appears to be VERY quiet on the
Venezuela = grabber,=20
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/74746618/LF/YV7MAE_LF_Gr= abber.html

DCF-39=20 is as strong as never seen there in this year, reaching > 30 dB =
in 1=20 Hz!!!!

I will switch to DFCW-90 on 136.172 kHz very = soon.

Will=20 someone join in? A pity if not. Where are the active UK stations? =
This=20 would be a real chance to leave first traces from UK to = SA!


73,=20 GL,=20 Stefan/DK7FC

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