X-GM-THRID: 1205702496206903816 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: cc813c2b075e44f56320b4ac03ebbca97257d74b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.17 with SMTP id z17cs20829wrc; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 05:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.131.6 with SMTP id e6mr300997hud; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 05:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 31si275825hub.2006.06.09.05.39.56; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 05:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FogBU-00034Q-Hr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 13:33:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FogBU-00034H-08 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 13:33:52 +0100 Received: from smarthost0.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.10]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FogBP-0002oi-Ku for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 13:33:51 +0100 Received: from tnt-1-54.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.206.54] helo=captbrian) by smarthost0.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1FogBN-000Jb5-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 13:33:45 +0100 Message-ID: <001d01c68bc0$ea9edfa0$36ce28c3@captbrian> From: "captbrian" To: References: <44894231.30866.D42969@localhost> Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 13:33:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: IC706 vs TS850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6649 Thanks for that. It certainly helps _me_. I have a 706/2/g but no 850. The front end of my 706 is so wide it recieves all the world at the same time ! but I am only one mile from a MW broadcast station . I can see I need at least a V. narrow tuned pre-amp. Any ideas where to find one? [ Newbury Rally next week ] I too consider the 706's inability to switch off its own AGC is bad designer error. Someone ought to be able to think up a rig mod. ? Bryan - G3GVB / AC4UA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: Sent: 09 June 2006 09:41 Subject: LF: IC706 vs TS850 > Having changed my main station radio from an IC706 Mk1 to a TS- > 850SAT, I have been able to compare the two at LF. > > The TS-850 is better than the IC-706 because: > * It is much more sensitive at LF (even better than the IC-706 plus > LF pre-amp). It works well down to 30kHz, though not specified. > * Strong signal handling is better. > * The AGC can be switched off. > * More selectivity options (variable bandpass, notch). > > The IC-706 is better than the TS-850 because: > * Frequency readout is down to 1Hz, rather than the 850's 10Hz. > * Tuning is in 1Hz steps. The 850 is 10Hz, even on so-called 'Fine' > which does not fine tune, it just reduces the Hz/revolution. > * Frequency stability is better. > * Frequency accuracy is better. My old and battered 706 could be set > accurately to within 1Hz anywhere in its spectrum. I could > confidently measure frequency with Argo down to 0.1Hz after > calibrating the radio against 198kHz. By contrast, my 850 has an > error varying from zero to several Hz from one end of each 500kHz > 'chunk' to the other. > * The tuning knob has a finger hole which makes frequency changes > much easier, both when fine tuning and rapidly changing frequency. > > In short, the TS-850 is a better radio, but the synthesiser and its > tuning knob are poorer than the IC-706. > > Hope this helps someone. > > 73 de Mike, G3XDV > ============== > > >