Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id BC27638000101; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 12:00:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ROXxR-0004ks-Se for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:58:33 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ROXxR-0004kj-Dk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:58:33 +0000 Received: from out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.239]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ROXxO-00049H-PY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:58:33 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsMAAHgCvE5cHYO7/2dsb2JhbABEmi6FCYpvgQaBbQUBAQUIAQEDSQIsAQEDBQIBAxEEAQEKJRQBBBoGFggGEwoBAgIBAYdzuECJfgSCWoUEnj8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,489,1315177200"; d="scan'208,217";a="366237505" Received: from host-92-29-131-187.as13285.net (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.29.131.187]) by out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 10 Nov 2011 16:58:22 +0000 Message-ID: <001c01cc9fc9$f29f49b0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000a01cc9fc3$294700e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4EBBFACA.90700@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:42:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Daytime DX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01CC9FC7.ACAABA40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:482322784:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60174ebc032b7624 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CC9FC7.ACAABA40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan I find the YO grabber not sensitive. The Moscow grabber receives my = signal when the signal is not visible on the YO grabber. Something odd going on!!. but I noticed last night the 4X1/Haifa grabber = received my signal when there was poor copy on the YO grabber. Strange = !! You live beside it so it is not a problem for you de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 4:24 PM Subject: Re: LF: Daytime DX Mal, LF,=20 Yes i know. Looking on the YO/4X1RF grabber you see that the DCF level = is almost constant over the day. In summer the level varies 30...40 dB = from day to night. So there is almost no day in winther. Am 10.11.2011 17:09, schrieb mal hamilton:=20 Stefan es Co The RN3AGC es TF3HZ grabbers are sensitive during daytime. They = receive me vy well during daylight. Maybe you have already tried them.=20 Is the JA grabber set up for 136.173 Khz, does he monitor this freq = area ? As posted yesterday: http://icas.to/argo/eu.htm But the DCF S/N is just 15 dB in the moment. We would some kW ERP to = apear there. Maybe the path will improve later... 21 to 23 UTC must be = the best time to JA in the moment. Then, the band is closed to the east = and still open to the west. Note his window is set for QRSS-120 so your QRSS-30 will hardly be = visible, even if S/N would suffice. 73, gl, Stefan, joining in too soon. There is a good chance of being seen/heard now the DX season has = started 73 gl de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CC9FC7.ACAABA40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Stefan
I find the YO grabber not sensitive. The Moscow = grabber=20 receives my signal when the signal is not visible on the YO=20 grabber.
Something odd going on!!. but I noticed last = night the=20 4X1/Haifa grabber received my signal when there was poor copy on the YO = grabber.=20 Strange !! You live beside it so it is not a problem for = you
de mal/g3kev
 
 
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From:=20 Stefan = Sch=E4fer
Sent: Thursday, November 10, = 2011 4:24=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Daytime = DX

Mal, LF,

Yes i know. Looking on the YO/4X1RF = grabber=20 you see that the DCF level is almost constant over the day. In summer = the=20 level varies 30...40 dB from day to night. So there is almost no day = in=20 winther.

Am 10.11.2011 17:09, schrieb mal hamilton:=20
Stefan es Co
The RN3AGC es TF3HZ  grabbers are = sensitive=20 during daytime. They receive me vy well during daylight. Maybe you = have=20 already tried them.
Is the JA grabber set up for 136.173 Khz, = does he=20 monitor this freq area ?

As posted = yesterday: http://icas.to/argo/eu.htm
But= the=20 DCF S/N is just 15 dB in the moment. We would some kW ERP to apear = there.=20 Maybe the path will improve later... 21 to 23 UTC must be the best = time to JA=20 in the moment. Then, the band is closed to the east and still open to = the=20 west.

Note his window is set for QRSS-120 so your QRSS-30 will = hardly=20 be visible, even if S/N would suffice.

73, gl, Stefan, joining = in too=20 soon.

There is a good chance of being seen/heard = now the DX=20 season has started
73 gl de mal/g3kev
 
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