Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15700 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2002 21:35:55 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Nov 2002 21:35:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 23100 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Nov 2002 21:35:49 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Nov 2002 21:35:49 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.10) id 18GQsj-0004YJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 21:35:05 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.111] (helo=gadolinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18GQsj-0004YA-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 21:35:05 +0000 Received: from host62-6-93-32.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([62.6.93.32] helo=main) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #16) id 18GQsi-0002It-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 21:35:04 +0000 Message-ID: <001c01c294ca$75536720$205d063e@main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 21:30:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: HBG de W1TAG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.42 X-Spam-Level: * Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Hi John, your plot continues to be interesting. The little (well 10dB !!) peak at 1500z looks like it roughly corresponds to the time when the sun is due south (i.e. radiation strongest) at the mid point of the path. To my thinking this indicates that there is perhaps a one-hop mode operating. We have sometimes seen this when there has been daytime transmission of CFH due to geomagnetic storms. I believe that DCF39 which is stronger than CFH shows this effect often......certainly John VE1ZJ mentioned it several times. I think , although I have not checked it on geoclock, that the dip at 0915z this "morning" might correspond to the dawn at the mid-path point (at 90kms altitude, rather than at sea level) I have not normally seen a deep dip on East<>West paths so I am not sure about that one. It will be interesting to see if it occurs every "morning". I believe it could be the sun illuminating the D-layer from underneath (as described in a Bob Brown paper in QEX ) and building up a thick absorbing layer. As later the sun's altitude increases, it pushes up the electron density still further but from above and forces the "reflection level" down reducing the thickness of the absorbing layer that the waves must tranverse. Don't take this a gospel.....I am just trying to make sense of it in my own way.......and waiting for someone to say "that is rubbish because....". You sometimes have to stick your neck out to get a good discussion going !! Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com