Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20465 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2002 17:10:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by exhibition.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Mar 2002 17:10:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 5329 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2002 17:09:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Mar 2002 17:09:54 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16iJqg-0001Um-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Mar 2002 18:39:42 +0000 Received: from mta2.snet.net ([204.60.203.71]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16iJqf-0001Uh-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Mar 2002 18:39:41 +0000 Received: from cianciolo (97.79.252.64.snet.net [64.252.79.97] (may be forged)) by mta2.snet.net (8.12.1/8.12.1/SNET-smtp-1.1/D-1.1/O-1.1) with SMTP id g25H1Yjt000055 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 12:01:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001b01c1c467$9c600aa0$6e01a8c0@cianciolo> From: "PC" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020305111830.00a99f38@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Subject: LF: Your litz wire comments Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 12:03:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Jim and the group I am going to build a loop here for the lowfer band here in the states. A while back Jim wrote a post about making your own litz wire. I recall that it mentioned twisting the wire with a drill and then twisting sets of these wire to get the desired size of Litz required. He also mentioned something about one cannot just lay the wires parralel and expect it to perform as a Litz wire would. Can you you explain please what that effect was ? Mutual Conductance perhaps? Here is the reason I ask. I have access to Telephone company multi pair wire. many sizes but lets just talk about 25 pair # 24 wire. The square loop I propose would have a primeter of 200' 200 feet of #24 wire has a DC resistance of 5.134 Ohms. Divide that by the 50 wires in a 25 pair cable and you have a DC loss of .102 Ohms. Using a diameter of .0201" for the #24 wire X the 50 wire in parallel there would be an effective diameter of 1" or a surface area of PI * 1" or 3.14". There by lower the radiation resistace of the antenna. Would some care to comment on this idea on wether some or all of it have merit? Thank you kindly Paul A.Cianciolo W1VLF This seems to be an effective coductor for use in an LF loop