X-GM-THRID: 1229268114706972753 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.115.73.6 with SMTP id a6cs41774wal; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:38:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.221.6 with SMTP id t6mr4173261ugg.1172360289004; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:38:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id x26si3014402ugc.2007.02.24.15.38.08; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:38:09 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: good (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1HL6QR-0005gk-OA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 23:35:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1HL6QR-0005gb-3X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 23:35:35 +0000 Received: from smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.74]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HL6QN-0004CX-6K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 23:35:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 52544 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2007 23:35:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=nm/B9BSsXSRQrPYkmu/bNCObtATEofjOXOe9ZMrP2MsRxpI7YWGVkqXc5Gwd/22kEMh0N7gCqskl2+WMIlo+ZbEn3l3TBH3P6FHpp2DU9ZXxvKji1yvkeZ3Y076NdrNTYRIbm+hJ+VygyxGt7dbfRY+GlsgYWdjFQeuPIEuYDhk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.40.188 with login) by smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 2007 23:35:22 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: yJJGtH0VM1nM1cglIpLLgKLCBltGH8YxrrmSnEfp0rxpzhyGjUk7bQ2sqWGLfO5PvMUNf.8jXcpMlqrT_O8gdkRMyC1N5Tr4qcqTjbCSjVScSPDe7Q8U_5WckYiqMtki2j0yeuqaN2qG Message-ID: <001a01c7586c$771dc360$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <45E03363.707@online.fr> <02854731.20070224214530@t-online.de><002f01c75857$68e22a80$0300a8c0@lark> <1634537457.20070224223736@t-online.de> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 23:35:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.420 Subject: Re: LF: T/A last night : XNS,NA,VE3OT? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2764 Hi Hartmut thanks for that information. I did wonder whether it was the Russian transmit frequency which IS a good idea, but it would be better if they would listen, if the frequency is clear at their end, in the 136.2 area. If that could be organised it would work well, but not I suppose if the Russians want to try for N.America.( There would of course no be much point in them using 137.777 then as the qrm on the other side would prevent any copy.) It is a difficult one but the band is big and we can fit many stations into a small bandwidth. I cant imagine why they chose such an odd frequency which just happens to be Joe's crystal. We may be at fault by using that number to define the centre window for the grabbers in western Europe. The FCC Part 5 136 stations clustered around Joe, because he was rock bound, when they started up. I am sure if HRE would move down about 0.2 to 0.5Hz it would clear his transmission. I dont think that would clash with Mitch. The other station who was in that area was Laurence who is not active at present. It would not be a problem here but is HRE is strong it might affect your copy Hartmut. Seriously it is great to have so much activity we start worrying about qrm !! :-)) Best wishes de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Hartmut Wolff To: Alan Melia Sent: 24 February 2007 21:37 Subject: Re: LF: T/A last night : XNS,NA,VE3OT? > Hi Alan, > > > he obviously doesnt read this reflector, can someone advise him > > that that is not the right frequency to be heard by US stations. I hate to > > think of him wasting all that effort during good condx but to be on top of > > Joe as well is not good. > > I read on his website that he has a sked with Oleg, RX9BS. It seems > all active russian stations moved into the T/A window for transmitting > and listen there, too. I saw DL2HRE, PA3CPM and IK5ZPV trying to > contact RA3YO, UA4WPF and RX9BS in the past week. All in the frequency > range 137.775-137.779 kHz. > > 73 > Hartmut > >