X-GM-THRID: 1234548235468190978 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.35.22.8 with SMTP id z8cs248933pyi; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.221.6 with SMTP id t6mr121736ugg.1177367890102; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 24si364132ugf.2007.04.23.15.38.07; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: good (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Hg78T-0002Wh-5J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:35:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Hg78S-0002WY-O8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:35:52 +0100 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hg78R-00089I-J8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:35:52 +0100 Received: (qmail 22245 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2007 22:35:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=K5bvu8UA0qSa81S/GQ9tjYhsH/pZwno9qiko7UIudtjvTpAZRLhxtZy8fhRXqormHjSYUDoHUTmKzjIrOatVD5UW+A7Nx02amBhiV+6P4N9tVdwFRIKI8QW27NU7LZOXZzvAYf3ieeFpwuaykI5Y2yYHG943qa6tdKVQWa9nT18= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.9.203 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 2007 22:35:45 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: E9RY6UsVM1mIMLgXzzbFCKgArcWX1huiZcnC6heDnNmAg9X9_ie3bFINhSNDmxf4gKHNRsydKymiUPHCrjly81Y8X00a77unIP6ziOMnlfkYiRQO Message-ID: <001901c785f7$bb64a4e0$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <000a01c785dd$456ebba0$79e8fc3e@g3kev> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:35:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500 EASY START Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2958 Hi Alan, there is not a lot of "accumulated wisdom" on 500kHz yet but most of the 136khz experience seems to work. The best tutorial for aerials at LF is the pages by Rik Srobbe ON7YD. You will find a lot else there as well. http://www.qsl.net/on7yd/ and click on "The 136kHz Amateur Band" in the left-hand bar. Low frequency crystals are almost unknown these days. It is so easy to divide down. Two techniques have been used straight division like Mal suggests or mixing crystals in the 5 to 6 meg range...pulling one up and the other down with a 2 gang variable cap. as Dave Sargent recently described. Have you though of trying at 50p ceramic resonator !! 500kHz is a stadard frequency for these and they are fairly "bendable" so may come up into the band. I think GW3EUP uses one. You will find a spreadsheet on my web site (beside a lot of other junk) which attemmpts to simplify the ERP calculation. http://www.btinternet.com/~alan.melia/programs.htm It is an EXCEL sheet and should download OK. I hope that helps ...welcome to LF and remember LF=Lotsa Fun !! Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Ibbetson To: Sent: 23 April 2007 23:03 Subject: Re: LF: 500 EASY START > Hello everyone, Alan G3XAQ here. I just joined this mailing list. I'm > preparing my application for a 501KHz NoV, so Mal's note on an easy > start is very timely.