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Subject: Re: LF: Fenceline longwire
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yes trees will work as lf antennaes..not recomended for trans mitting though
..not in clean green new-zealand...different ways to couple into trees using
ferrite rods....a good sniffer on lf is a few ferrite bc rods wound and
resonated onto frequency required..link coupled into a coax cable or even
elcheapo flat twin power flex..hook other end onto reciever or convertor
..then place ferrite loop sniffer near different things and here what
recieves lf....even the humble metal water pipe feeding house water supply
can pick up all lf beacons in nz.....the sniffer also works great tracking
where u have buried the thousand and one ground radials in the ground used
for vertical lf set ups..the current loops the grounding is not that
important..that will do from me..just built my hf amp 813s as rsgb hand book
so back to that...heard a whistba i may get 500khz permit...nextweek well
never..george zl3pn hooray for now
----- Original Message -----
From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" <weazle@hurontel.on.ca>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Fenceline longwire
> Hi Peter, Rik, LFers,
>
> Thanks for modeling my fenceline longwire and sharing the results.
> I appreciate any input/comments on the antenna, but I have to say
> that I'm rather surprised that nobody questioned or commented
> on my unusual "ground". Apparently tree roots of conifers can
> be pressed into service when frozen ground prevents driving
> in the usual "earthing stakes".
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR" 188.830
> EN93dr
>
> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle
>
>
>
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