X-GM-THRID: 1239815914256979057 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.10 with SMTP id u10cs427056hue; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.178.11 with SMTP id a11mr2560359buf.1182382423323; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:33:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id k9si5985771nfh.2007.06.20.16.33.35; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:33:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1I19dK-0004TC-0i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 00:30:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1I19dJ-0004T3-GN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 00:30:41 +0100 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I19dI-00005k-E3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 00:30:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 54728 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2007 23:29:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=wFxh6qpqjRKOG06yY3RhySHohzVFb0VvJtmqNxbV8EB+YamBuKSK5MG4lCPQEixd8qTS5U5rjd72ueAFDToPTtpIB0YWZVDFHk09Lg+XtFIHYjVBQCzs0KpYpyzVuri8vCs6p2gDWG42P4h8i3GzWgePKNKxBbxdvvUQYQc5to0= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.16.54 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jun 2007 23:29:34 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: TgCZOtgVM1naeQmUpGnRTa8U2LdRve_seeSO3gjPgeAtpqGw0uq8FrF5RnBlmYp0YKiDpcI_ABDrVpb8OAnEKQMSSAqNeYjXhIFicMGL5uvNrAu9 Message-ID: <001801c7b392$de27dce0$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <062020072228.467.4679A9F000059E24000001D322058891160B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 00:29:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: LF Vertical Antennas problem... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1198 Hi Warren that sounds familiar !! I think you are using covered wire, my guess is a break on one leg so that you do not have enough capacitance to resonate with the original coils. A top-band dipole will still work quite well with one leg disconnected. Can you leave out the loading coil and measure the resonance frequency of the wire T alone that might give some clues. I have had this effect when part of the top load comes disconnected. Good Luck with it Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: To: rsgb lf reflector ; rsgb lf reflector Sent: 20 June 2007 23:28 Subject: LF: LF Vertical Antennas problem... > Hello the list, > > I have in the past used my 160 meter dipole as a vertical "T" by tying the feeders together and using a tapped loading coil to resonate and match the antenna. I could get a perfect 50 ohm match in this manner and it radiated quite well - Hartmut copied my transmission running around 100 watts. I have also used the same setup on 500kHz with a different loading coil successfully. > > Now I find that I cannot resonate the antenna - I can't eliminate the reactance no matter what the setting of the tap or the coil. The best I can do is an swr of 1.7:1 and at least 40 ohms of reactance. I have tried changing coils and still the problem persists. If I do transmit this way, my signal seems to be down at least 10dB below what it was when the antenna resonated properly. Any thoughts? > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23/WE2XEB/2 > FN42hi > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm >