Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12597 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 19:16:21 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 19:16:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 5266 invoked by uid 10001); 29 Jul 2003 19:16:20 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 19:16:20 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19hZw6-0005wD-Ln for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 20:15:02 +0100 Received: from [212.1.130.141] (helo=smtp-1.visp.telinco.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19hZw0-0005w1-It for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 20:14:56 +0100 Received: from [80.40.54.180] (helo=RSGB613192) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19hZvz-0005fK-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 20:14:55 +0100 Message-ID: <001801c35605$86574f80$b4362850@RSGB613192> From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <126.2e36606c.2c57f5cd@aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 20:13:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF:GPS Locked signalling at LF Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0tests=HTML_10_20,HTML_MESSAGE,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Thans to those who replied to me directly on this subject, there certainly does appear to be some interest and in 2 - 3 weeks I'll be in a position to listen for some weak signals.
 
In the meantine how about this :
 
A PIC with on board A/D converter (8 bit is more than adequate) samples an audio waveform at, say, 1kHz (or 800Hz).  This can be downconverted to zero freqeuncy quite easily with a simple bit of PIC software by multiplying by an 8 step I and Q internally generated waveform. 
Now here's a bit I think ought to work but need to test the idea.  If a GPS pulse every second is used to synchronise the PIC's internally generated LO at precisely the same point each second this will effectively lock the LO.  About 1000 I/Q samples are accumulated and output as RS232 words for further processing.   With an 8 bit conversion, the only additional hardware needed apart from the PIC would be sufficient anti alliassing filtering to eliminate audio components below 500Hz and above 1.5kHz.   Any CW filter in a receiver can do this so with a very simple interface, GPS locked clock and timing recovery is possible.  An even simple conversion using a square wave internal LO at 4kHz is also possible, but now teh anti allias filter has to prevent frequencies below 750Hz and above 1250Hz from getting to the A/D
 
Andy  G4JNT