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Markus
Tonight I see/hear 2 transmitters at present on 11905. Strong signals=
plus sidebands. 25 dB sig over noise.
mal/g3kev
=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Markus Vester=20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Dream 9 (Alpha check)
A quick receive check is whether you can actually hear the most dist=
ant Alpha transmitter as well, ie. all three dashes on 11.905 kHz duri=
ng the evening.=20
Another test is whether you can occasionally see -40 dB modulation=
sidebands in a milliHz-resolution spectrogram. These appear irregular=
ly (often for a few hours around 6 UT), and are caused by phase altera=
tions on some of the Krasnodar dashes. This is probably some sort of=
coded information, piggybacked on the navigation system.
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
From: mal hamilton=20
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:07 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: Dream 9
Horst
I likewise am getting around 30 dB sig above noise with a non resona=
nt antenna.With my 137 Khz array resonated on 9 Kcs the improvement is=
at least 20 dB
better, unfortunately there is so little Dreamers acty diverting the=
system is not worth while.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Horst St=C3=B6cker=20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Dream 9
I've got the Alpha with -60 dB and about 25-30dB over noise. Maybe=
I'll soon catch the first "dreamer".
I am still not sure if my configurations are allright now. But try=
ing some antenna locations around my house brought the best result at=
the postition I have fixed the MiniWhip now.
I hope, it's good enough. Otherwise I will have to quit thinking=
about receiving at home.
Horst
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Von: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
Gesendet: 20.01.2011 16:37:38
An: rsgb <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Betreff: LF: Dream 9
VLF
I had some spare time today and checked VLF Alpha on 11905 minus=
65 dB and loud with 150 metres non resonant inv L.
My rx has a 1 Khz bfo offset and on speclab the calibration look=
s ok for normal acty but at QRS600 it might be a different story!!
RX af is LSB/USB selectable at 3 Khz and 20 Hz
No signals visible on 8.9 Khz, nice clean screen
Anyon active ?
de mal/g3kev
=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Markus</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tonight I see/hear 2 transmitters at=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color:=
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dmarkusvester@aol.com href=3D"mailto:markusvester@aol.com"=
>Markus=20
Vester</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
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f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 20,=
2011 11:04=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Dream 9 (Alp=
ha=20
check)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A quick receive check is wheth=
er you can=20
actually hear the most distant Alpha transmitter =
;as well,=20
ie. all three dashes on 11.905 kHz during the evening. </FONT><=
/DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Another test is whether you can&nbs=
p;occasionally=20
see -40 dB modulation sidebands in a milliHz-resolution sp=
ectrogram.=20
These appear irregularly (often for a few hours around 6=
UT),=20
and are caused by phase alterations on some of the Kr=
asnodar=20
dashes. This is probably some sort of coded information, piggyb=
acked on=20
the navigation system.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best 73,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Markus (DF6NM)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dg3kevmal@ta=
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:07 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&=
#10;STRG + Klicken, um Verkn=C3=BCpfung zu folgen" href=3D"mailto:=
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Dream 9</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Horst</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I likewise am getting around 30 dB=
sig above=20
noise with a non resonant antenna.With my 137 Khz array resonated on=
9 Kcs the=20
improvement is at least 20 dB</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>better, unfortunately there is so=
little Dreamers=20
acty diverting the system is not worth while.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-co=
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<A title=3Dhorst.stoecker@web.de href=3D"mailto:horst.stoecker@web=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_l=
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rg">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 20,=
2011 4:29=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Dream 9</D=
IV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D=
2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial=
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the Alpha with -60 dB and about 25-30dB over noise. Maybe I'll soo=
n catch=20
the first "dreamer".<BR>I am still not sure if my configurations=
are=20
allright now. But trying some antenna locations around my house br=
ought the=20
best result at the postition I have fixed the MiniWhip now.<BR>I=
hope, it's=20
good enough. Otherwise I will have to quit thinking about receivin=
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<B>Von:</B> "mal hamilton"=20
<g3kevmal@talktalk.net><BR><B>Gesendet:</B> 20.01.2011=20
16:37:38<BR><B>An:</B> rsgb=20
<rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org><BR><B>Betreff:</B> LF: Drea=
m=20
9<BR><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: x-small; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">VLF<=
/SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: x-small; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I ha=
d some spare=20
time today and checked VLF Alpha on 11905 minus 65 dB and loud=
with 150=20
metres non resonant inv L.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: x-small; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">My=
rx has a 1=20
Khz bfo offset and on speclab the calibration looks ok for norma=
l acty but=20
at QRS600 it might be a different story!!</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: x-small; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">RX=
af is LSB/USB=20
selectable at 3 Khz and 20 Hz</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: x-small; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">No=
signals=20
visible on 8.9 Khz, nice clean screen</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: x-small; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Anyo=
n active=20
?</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: x-small; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">de=
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mal/g3kev</SPAN></DIV>
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